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[forsaken1111]

I like how the 'giant bug' is a starship troopers bug.

[Valid_Dark]

http://cake-slice.tumblr.com/post/27915766849/opinionatedwiley-whyisfeminismathing

This woman recieved $200,000 for some kind of "research" on Kickstarter, then went and spent it on games. I can't seem to find the kickstarter itself, though.

Yeah, you can cut that out.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118310-Flash-Game-Makes-Players-Beat-Up-Tropes-vs-Women-Creator

This is just more of the shit that people are trying to fling her way.

I find this especially funny because if she didn't actually play a ton of video games to research her videos, I guarantee people would be going "How does she even know what she's talking about? It's not like she actually played any of the video games she's featuring."

Well, she took that $150,000 she got from kickstarter, and apparently bought every game system
and is buying a boat load of games.

Spoiler: proof (click to show/hide)

source

She says all these games are for "Research" for her videos.

Looking at that picture I can say I'm pretty sure a good amount of those games don't have stereotypical female characters,
Like there is borderlands, where the only female characters I can remember is the siren, who is one of the playable characters and can hold her own against the male characters, and the head scientist whose journals you find is a girl, showing that girls can be smart and stuff.  NOT a sexist game in the least.
And Crackdown, as far as I can remember there aren't any females in the game at all, but maybe i'm just not remembering right.
Skate and Skate 2, male characters and female characters are EXACTLY the same in those games, and gender makes no difference on your character other than appearance.

I think she just wanted to build a giant game collection with other peoples money.

[lordcooper]

This is pretty much her using the money for the reasons she asked for it.

Besides, gotta look at both sides of the coin, right?

[Criptfeind]

Valid_Dark, would you be happier if she only focused on the negatives? Really? You don't think people would claim she was being biased?

[MrWiggles]

Her research is about how girls are portrayed in video games. If she only got games with known badly portrayed woman characters then her thesis would have been flawed due to a fundamental bias.

[Valid_Dark]

Valid_Dark, would you be happier if she only focused on the negatives? Really? You don't think people would claim she was being biased?

Well isn't that what her little show is about?

[MrWiggles]

Valid_Dark, would you be happier if she only focused on the negatives? Really? You don't think people would claim she was being biased?

Well isn't that what her little show is about?

Is anyone else getting a sense of hostility from Valid Dark toward her?

[lordcooper]

Yup.

[SealyStar]

http://cake-slice.tumblr.com/post/27915766849/opinionatedwiley-whyisfeminismathing

This woman recieved $200,000 for some kind of "research" on Kickstarter, then went and spent it on games. I can't seem to find the kickstarter itself, though.

Yeah, you can cut that out.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118310-Flash-Game-Makes-Players-Beat-Up-Tropes-vs-Women-Creator

This is just more of the shit that people are trying to fling her way.

You have to admit, while I definitely don't approve of extreme stuff like murder and rape threats, or misogynous/anti-Semitic slurs, she kind of deserves a lot more criticism than she gets.
She says "I n33d 6 th0uzand do77arz of l00tz 2 sh0 y v1d3o g@emz are s3xi5t lol", and gets $160,000 (last I checked) by exploiting the Friedan effect and playing the victim card.
This is the biggest part of my problem with Sarkeesian, but the other is jealousy. I mean, I'm sure you all must have thought, "Hey, she's a goddamn genius for suckering people out of their money like this".

EDIT: Reading between the lines on the specific post I'm quoting, I just realized that a lot of people here, too, are falling for this goddamn Friedan/victim card effect. Hated=/=good. Well, now I am dead set on that "victim card" scheme of my own...

[lordcooper]

I really don't think it was a ploy.  $6000 isn't much for a professional video series and research material.  People just gave more than she asked for, there wasn't some evil feminine trickery going on.

Kinda expected better than this on Bay12

[MrWiggles]

http://cake-slice.tumblr.com/post/27915766849/opinionatedwiley-whyisfeminismathing

This woman recieved $200,000 for some kind of "research" on Kickstarter, then went and spent it on games. I can't seem to find the kickstarter itself, though.

Yeah, you can cut that out.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118310-Flash-Game-Makes-Players-Beat-Up-Tropes-vs-Women-Creator

This is just more of the shit that people are trying to fling her way.

You have to admit, while I definitely don't approve of extreme stuff like murder and rape threats, or misogynous/anti-Semitic slurs, she kind of deserves a lot more criticism than she gets.
She says "I n33d 6 th0uzand do77arz of l00tz 2 sh0 y v1d3o g@emz are s3xi5t lol", and gets $160,000 (last I checked) by exploiting the Friedan effect and playing the victim card.
This is the biggest part of my problem with Sarkeesian, but the other is jealousy. I mean, I'm sure you all must have thought, "Hey, she's a goddamn genius for suckering people out of their money like this".

Again why the hostility? She made her proposal rather clear, so there no reason to bastardized it like that with the leet speak.  And I dont see why or how she played the victim card. And her thesis is on woman in video games, in order to conduct said research you need a lot of video game materiel to digest. Know, playing them is certainly one way to do this.

I dont see how this is just a scam to get a lot of video games.

[Realmfighter]

And I fail to see how you can know it's a scam before she, you know, makes the videos or not.

[MrWiggles]

She already has a video series on a similar subject, so already shown that she can make a video series and stick with it through completion. There evidence to support that she'll do this series as well. So the skepticism is a little unfounded.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

before i start i'll state my position upfront
i think it's too much money. i agree with her motivations, and wished her to suceed, maybe triple her kickstarter goals, but it irks me more than a bit that so much money was thrown her way just to piss off some trolls. and frankly, giving a bajillion dollars to a random person nobody heard of to make a bunch of youtube videos? i'm certain there are many people that worked years in the area and are much more knowable than her, and could certainly put that money to better uses
not that i blame her for it, for all that i know she may feel the same way. she didn't ask for this much money
now on to the specific subject at hand

Valid_Dark, would you be happier if she only focused on the negatives? Really? You don't think people would claim she was being biased?

Well isn't that what her little show is about?

her hypothesis is that women are portrayed stereotypically and unfavourably in video games more often than not. to make a statistic to validate her claim she has to analyse a representative sample, not pick and choose only those that apply, for all we know she may have bought an entire game store inventory. besides, having a few examples of how things should be done would just add to her argument

E:it was the subject at hand, 7 replies ago, when i started typing

[MrWiggles]

before i start i'll state my position upfront
i think it's too much money. i agree with her motivations, and wished her to suceed, maybe triple her kickstarter goals, but it irks me more than a bit that so much money was thrown her way just to piss off some trolls. and frankly, giving a bajillion dollars to a random person nobody heard of to make a bunch of youtube videos?

Emphasis mine. Isnt this the point of the crowd sourcing model for founding? That you dont need to have proir experience or even proof of concept, just toss your idea out there and present it well, and see if you can get funded? And her video series are not entirely unknown, but they aren't common knowledge.