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[nenjin]

If you take in money, you'd damn well better produced something, even if it's a comment a year later that says "Sorry!"

People that take in money through Kickstarter and then remorselessly abandon it without a word are, in my book, scammers. Well-meaning people don't do shit like that.

[Kansa]

 This kickstarter project really does mystify me, I support what she is trying to do but why does she need 125,000$ dollars to sit in front of a video camera and talk about this stuff? I mean seriously hundreds of people on youtube do what she is promising to do with this money and yet she is getting more money than most people earn in a year for a series of 12 videos that she probably could have done without this funding at all.

[Gantolandon]

Someone messaged me on Kickstarter today. They said that they were waiting for approval of their project, and had seen Cult while browsing other games. They asked for comments and advice on their project...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1766204091/1587310059?token=1b501669

Yeah... I don't really know what to tell them. Other than 'go back to the drawing board'. But I feel somehow that such advice doesn't stand much of a chance of being considered.

(I feel kind of bad even putting this here, but if somebody can think of a kind way for me to dissuade this person from making a fool of themselves, I will try.)

I love how, after pledging over 40$ and winning a bumper sticker and a photo print, I'm required to include 10$ more for shipping.

[nenjin]

This kickstarter project really does mystify me, I support what she is trying to do but why does she need 125,000$ dollars to sit in front of a video camera and talk about this stuff? I mean seriously hundreds of people on youtube do what she is promising to do with this money and yet she is getting more money than most people earn in a year for a series of 12 videos that she probably could have done without this funding at all.

Because she wants to be a professional about it, and that takes money? Money to do research and high production values? Honestly, I prefer it this way, to people's nauseating self-promotion on Youtube. "Subscribe to my channel!" "Kiss my ass!"

[Gantolandon]

This kickstarter project really does mystify me, I support what she is trying to do but why does she need 125,000$ dollars to sit in front of a video camera and talk about this stuff? I mean seriously hundreds of people on youtube do what she is promising to do with this money and yet she is getting more money than most people earn in a year for a series of 12 videos that she probably could have done without this funding at all.

Because she wants to be a professional about it, and that takes money? Money to do research and high production values? Honestly, I prefer it this way, to people's nauseating self-promotion on Youtube. "Subscribe to my channel!" "Kiss my ass!"

Also, the actual goal was 6,000$. Still, looking at the actual video titles ("Fighting Fuck Toy", "Man with Boobs", "Women as Reward") I'm inclined to think that research phase is pretty much over and the conclusion drawn.

[Skyrunner]

Wow.Those titles don't exactly scream professional; imo they're more of a media-style INSERT PROVOCATIVE TITLE HERE. Personally, I wouldn't view those. :/

Also, $6000 is a lot. I hope she appends a document with references after each video, whose access costed well over a couple thousand >.>

[MarcAFK]

Also, $6000 is a lot. I hope she appends a document with references after each video, whose access costed well over a couple thousand >.>

And since she actually raised over $125,000 what should she append to her videos?

[forsaken1111]

Also, $6000 is a lot. I hope she appends a document with references after each video, whose access costed well over a couple thousand >.>

And since she actually raised over $125,000 what should she append to her videos?

Honestly, she should just abscond with the cash and upload a video of herself rolling in money then flipping off the camera.

I would. >.>

Since they were all donations, she is under no obligation to provide anything beyond the videos she promised. Hell she's not even under an obligation to complete the videos really.

[Criptfeind]

Wow.Those titles don't exactly scream professional; imo they're more of a media-style INSERT PROVOCATIVE TITLE HERE. Personally, I wouldn't view those. :/

Also, $6000 is a lot. I hope she appends a document with references after each video, whose access costed well over a couple thousand >.>

I disagree with both points. The single video title 'The Fighting F#@k Toy' is pretty provocative, but it can be very accurate and all the other titles seem normal enough. And yeah, 6,000 dollars, not that much. I mean, she is obviously going to do it in a much more professional environment then most. That costs money. And 6,000 is not a whole lot in the long run. The fact that she made over a 100,000 dollars I don't think reflects badly upon her, but rather how important this is to some people. She did not ask for that, she just got it. People think it is a fair reward for what she offered.

And on: "Also, $6000 is a lot. I hope she appends a document with references after each video, whose access costed well over a couple thousand >.>" each video is going to cost significantly less then $500. So. Okay.

[Gantolandon]

I did some research and found that. So, apparently, the kickstarting went as expected until Internet Hate Machine hit Sarkeesian hard, including death and rape threats. The obscene amount of money being pledged is the result of people wanting to show their support to the author. Still not sure if I agree this particular project deserves as much money, but I can sympathize. At least, it is bound to encourage people not to be dicks.

[nenjin]

I did some research and found that. So, apparently, the kickstarting went as expected until Internet Hate Machine hit Sarkeesian hard, including death and rape threats. The obscene amount of money being pledged is the result of people wanting to show their support to the author. Still not sure if I agree this particular project deserves as much money, but I can sympathize. At least, it is bound to encourage people not to be dicks.

Just so you know, we basically had this conversation a page or two ago already.

[Gantolandon]

I did some research and found that. So, apparently, the kickstarting went as expected until Internet Hate Machine hit Sarkeesian hard, including death and rape threats. The obscene amount of money being pledged is the result of people wanting to show their support to the author. Still not sure if I agree this particular project deserves as much money, but I can sympathize. At least, it is bound to encourage people not to be dicks.

Just so you know, we basically had this conversation a page or two ago already.

Uh, we did? This particular Kickstarter page hadn't been brought then yet.

[nenjin]

My bad. This discussion was basically also happening in the When Kickstarter Goes Right Thread.

[Skyrunner]

Huh, that's really harsh of the internet. o_o

Of course, it is the internet.

[kaijyuu]

Overarching rule of the internet: Be amusing or die. Woe be unto you if your death would be amusing, too!