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Author Topic: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)  (Read 24603 times)

Darvi

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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2012, 09:02:01 am »
*meets Doppelganger*

"Shit, those bastards lied to me!"
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2012, 09:04:09 am »
When they transfer concioisness THEN! We talk


I want my personal concioisness intact thankyou
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2012, 09:06:06 am »
How would you know? Your doppelganger would believe it was you, but the you-you is functionally dead, and nobody would notice, not even the doppelganger.
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2012, 09:08:12 am »
"You won't be able to feel it" has always failed absolutely in making me indifferent about my own death. I mean, that's true right this minute too!

I don't particularly care if I have a clone running around with all my life memories and personality. In fact, the difference this makes to me in the matter is zero.

Edit: And if the clone is an exact copy of me, it just means all the horror about killing myself is something they get to experience instead of me, since they're still aware of the fact that it happened. It's lose-lose!
« Last Edit: March 16, 2012, 09:10:11 am by DeKaFu »
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2012, 09:10:52 am »
But is it death if your mind gets completely transferred?  ;)

Our bodies already get destroyed and rebuild continuously (with a few exceptions I think) so where would be the difference (assuming that the disintegration of the original is a requirement for this process to work rather than done out of cloning prevention reasons)?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2012, 09:13:33 am by Kolbur »
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2012, 09:11:02 am »
I wrote a little story about this as an exercise for a creative writing class. I remember having one of the characters argue that "The parts that make up your body are constantly changing states, shifting around, being replaced. You are not the same person you were five minutes ago yet you see nothing wrong with that." Or something along those lines

Also, if you want any sort of reasonably good resolution in the copy the scanning process will destroy the original by locking quantum states and other physicsy stuff, so no worries about unnecessary murder!

(damn ninjas, stealing my thoughts)
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2012, 09:11:20 am »
Quote from: Kolbur on March 16, 2012, 09:10:52 am
But is it death if your mind gets completely transferred?  ;)
The point is it's not.
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2012, 09:12:26 am »
Quote from: Darvi on March 16, 2012, 09:02:01 am
*meets Doppelganger*

"Shit, those bastards lied to me!"
"I'm sorry sir, there was a problem in disassembling your proto-self. We are going to have to forbid leaving the compound until the situation can be resolved.
No, don't worry, it isn't still alive. The situation is pretty graphic, but basically some limbs weren't caught in the deionizing beam. For police records, we can't have unaccounted for DNA strands out there, so to ensure nobody commits a crime and frames you, we need to keep you here until all samples have been destroyed. If you leave the compound and anything happens, its both our necks on the chopping block."

Guess how I became an evil cult leader. Go on, guess.
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2012, 09:15:34 am »
You picked up a piece of a magical gem, tried to wash my brain but failed because I eagerly joined you anyway, and we proceeded to kick some major butt?
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2012, 09:16:56 am »
Exactly! Charisma!
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2012, 11:13:05 am »
If we ever do it'll probably just be a cloning device in essence.

Destruction of the original is optional.

Personally I wouldn't use one.  Especially in the above case.
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2012, 11:16:42 am »
It would definitely make colonizing other planets interesting. Just shift a device - and heck, you could have an optional "destroy the original". In fact, keep the original! Then if anything ever happens to your colonist, you can send another.
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2012, 11:24:14 am »
Quote from: GlyphGryph on March 16, 2012, 11:16:42 am
It would definitely make colonizing other planets interesting. Just shift a device - and heck, you could have an optional "destroy the original". In fact, keep the original! Then if anything ever happens to your colonist, you can send another.
Screw colonies, how about mining slaves? Don't even have to tell them they're copies, and just incinerate them every 2 years or so before they start getting suspicious it's something other than a normal job.


Maybe we could set one up on the moon. With a robot buddy to keep them company.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2012, 11:26:18 am »
Because slavery is wrong. And I'm certainly not going to volunteer to go mine for two years and then get incinerated. That sounds like it sucks.
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Re: NEVER use teleportation (if it's invented in our lifetimes.)
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2012, 11:26:58 am »
Pff it'd be your clone. You wouldn't care.
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Quote from: Chesterton
For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.
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