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[psychologicalshock]

I have a whole squad of elite marksmen on top  of a 3rd story building behind fortifications yet an elite goblin bowman outranges them, why?

[terkiey]

Height does not help at all.

[psychologicalshock]

Height does not help at all.

The hell? When is that going to be fixed? It was like that 2 years ago.

[Naryar]

Send half of your dogs/poultry/mildly useful animals as bait. Send then a marksdwarf squad.

And yes, I do believe ranged weapons have a sphere as range, so no realistic larger range when on heights.

[Adrian]

I do believe ranged weapons have a sphere as range, so no realistic larger range when on heights.

So range actually decreases with height?
That sphere should become a cone.

Edited for *derp*geometry

[Girlinhat]

If you could cone it, then a 100z tall and an archer in the center could strike anything on the map.

Also it's more of a diamond shape.  For every 1 level up or down, you lose 1 range.  Because of how diagonals are counted, you have a large square at z0, and a slightly smaller square at z+1, and it continues.  It's a pyramid shape, if you have trouble understanding diamonds.

[Frogwarrior]

What shape is it on the ground level? Is it a square [ ] or a diamond <> ?

[MehMuffin]

Has anyone done any science about the relative ranges of different skill levels of crossbowdwarfs?

[Solon64]

What shape is it on the ground level? Is it a square [ ] or a diamond <> ?

Both.  Depends on your perspective, but an equilateral diamond is a square and a square is an equilateral diamond :p
Realistically?  Diamond.  Given dwarf has x range in the cardinal directions and that same range -1 for every row/column away from the cardinal directions.

Or at least that's my understanding.  It could well be a sphere /shrug

[Girlinhat]

It's a square.  Diagonals count as 1 tile.

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#####Each tile is 2 away from the dwarf.

At least that's how I've been to understand it.  You can move diagonally as fast as you can orthogonally, so it makes sense.

[o_O[WTFace]]

Elite Bowgoblins are megabeasts, more or less. 

Also I always believed a diagonal was one tile, but some people claim it does count as 1.4.

[Naryar]

So it is outrange, outrage, or both ?

Elite Bowgoblins are megabeasts, more or less. 

hahahahaha

[werechicken]

Wouldn't bows have a greater range than crossbows due to the fact that the you can transfer more force to the projectile due to the much longer draw-string.

Crossbows are only good because they require less skill and strength to use.

[Adrian]

If you could cone it, then a 100z tall and an archer in the center could strike anything on the map.

Obviously Dorfs can't fire at targets beyond their viewing range.

But their firing-range should not be inversly proportionate to a dorf's height. Otherwise guard towers wouldn't have any practical benefit (And you can't spell 'fortress' without 'guard tower').

[Naryar]

Wouldn't bows have a greater range than crossbows due to the fact that the you can transfer more force to the projectile due to the much longer draw-string.

Crossbows are only good because they require less skill and strength to use.

Aren't crossbows much more powerful IRL ?