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[Girlinhat]

I can't say that's an incredibly amazing image.  I mean, you basically drew what we all already know...

[forsaken1111]

I'm going to post this. A combination from what I got from my Freshman Geo 101 course, and DF.

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*squint*

Hm, I don't see any adamantine spires, exploding glaciers, floating caverns or flying magma seas...

[Fniff]

What other uses would adamantine have, if it existed in the real world? Could it be used for industrial uses?

[Mrhappyface]

I can't say that's an incredibly amazing image.  I mean, you basically drew what we all already know...

It's not meant to be, but what I wonder is how the heck the tubes can form. Hell exists in "bubbles" of slade inside the plates that float on the upper to mid mantle. How the addy to plug the entrances and magma sea to cover the whole thing can form sorta stumps me. If we could only breach the slade, then we would have UNLIMITED iron.

[Oliolli]

Then again, can we be sure DF's core is similar to the Earth's? What if it's actually entirely different?

[Teneb]

I can't say that's an incredibly amazing image.  I mean, you basically drew what we all already know...

It's not meant to be, but what I wonder is how the heck the tubes can form.

Isn't it obvious? Magic.

[Girlinhat]

Actually yes, magic.  The current standing for the world creation relies upon gods and demons, not plate tectonics.  Abridged creation myth:
Demons created a ball of slade and lived there.
Armok (and other gods?) became jealous, and built a world atop the slade ball.
The demons trying to escape causes heat on the SMR, which fuels the magma sea and keeps the planet warm (ie, the core is cold, it's purely demon rage that keeps the world warm).
Over time, the SMR has cracked, and Armok (and other gods?) plugged the holes with adamantine.
Those demons who did escape where hunted down by brave heroes, and the heroes managed to seal the final cracks with the magic of their adamantine blades (upright fun stick).
The zombies that exist in curious structures are actually eternal defenders, trying to keep dwarves away from the sword and ensure the demons never escape.

In other words, dwarves are the bad guys and the world was forged with magic.  Geology be damned.

[forsaken1111]

I can't say that's an incredibly amazing image.  I mean, you basically drew what we all already know...

It's not meant to be, but what I wonder is how the heck the tubes can form. Hell exists in "bubbles" of slade inside the plates that float on the upper to mid mantle. How the addy to plug the entrances and magma sea to cover the whole thing can form sorta stumps me. If we could only breach the slade, then we would have UNLIMITED iron.

Only in DF would someone wish to mine the outer core of the planet using pick-toting kitten-loving bearded maniacs. I could imagine magma divers in dragonscale diving suits and fire imp leather air bladders swimming down into the crushing depths to mine the core with adamantine picks.

What other uses would adamantine have, if it existed in the real world? Could it be used for industrial uses?

Hm... If we assume that the whole 'perfectly rigid' thing is false (which it would have to be since you're talking about the real world) then I'd say it would make a decent structural material for things like aircraft. Pure adamantine doesn't interest me as much as the possibilities for alloys though. Assuming that we could melt it and that it would indeed alloy, you should be able to make some amazing materials with it.

[Mrhappyface]

Actually yes, magic.  The current standing for the world creation relies upon gods and demons, not plate tectonics.  Abridged creation myth:
Demons created a ball of slade and lived there.
Armok (and other gods?) became jealous, and built a world atop the slade ball.
The demons trying to escape causes heat on the SMR, which fuels the magma sea and keeps the planet warm (ie, the core is cold, it's purely demon rage that keeps the world warm).
Over time, the SMR has cracked, and Armok (and other gods?) plugged the holes with adamantine.
Those demons who did escape where hunted down by brave heroes, and the heroes managed to seal the final cracks with the magic of their adamantine blades (upright fun stick).
The zombies that exist in curious structures are actually eternal defenders, trying to keep dwarves away from the sword and ensure the demons never escape.

In other words, dwarves are the bad guys and the world was forged with magic.  Geology be damned.

Hmm. I heard another version which mixed both real and DF. The world was formed pretty much the same as ours, by planetary differntiation and having a similar iron catastrophe.The demons were the first beings to exist, emerging from cold chasms of dead rock into a world with no atmosphere and air. When the gods came to being, they poured their power into driving the demons back into their holes, and sealed them with a mineral of their own making:adamantine. Exhausted from their efforts, the gods slept, only recently awaking from their slumber, unto a world anew; full of life and !!FUN!!

[tommy521]

Actually yes, magic.  The current standing for the world creation relies upon gods and demons, not plate tectonics.  Abridged creation myth:
Demons created a ball of slade and lived there.
Armok (and other gods?) became jealous, and built a world atop the slade ball.
The demons trying to escape causes heat on the SMR, which fuels the magma sea and keeps the planet warm (ie, the core is cold, it's purely demon rage that keeps the world warm).
Over time, the SMR has cracked, and Armok (and other gods?) plugged the holes with adamantine.
Those demons who did escape where hunted down by brave heroes, and the heroes managed to seal the final cracks with the magic of their adamantine blades (upright fun stick).
The zombies that exist in curious structures are actually eternal defenders, trying to keep dwarves away from the sword and ensure the demons never escape.

In other words, dwarves are the bad guys and the world was forged with magic.  Geology be damned.

Actually, as far as I know adamantine is little bits of Armok's beard hair that fell out and punctured all the way to hfs.

[Malarauko]

If I unseal hell I always make sure to kill as many demons as possible and reseal the hole. Is that the DF worlds version of environmentalism? Do your bit to provent Global Demonic Warming.

[Amallar]

Perhaps we should discuss magic as some sort of dimensional (or other exotic) energy/radiation, if we're willing to accept adamantine as having manifested from such energy.

[Mrhappyface]

If I unseal hell I always make sure to kill as many demons as possible and reseal the hole. Is that the DF worlds version of environmentalism? Do your bit to provent Global Demonic Warming.

No. You are depriving the world of a wonderful renewable resource: Demonic rage. Al Gore is therefore in league with the HFS. SO BURN !!CARBON!! FOR ARMOK!

[Arkenstone]

Perhaps we should discuss magic as some sort of dimensional (or other exotic) energy/radiation, if we're willing to accept adamantine as having manifested from such energy.

I dislike such 'explanations'; they just take the magic out of magic imo.  It's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, because the mere existance of what you're trying to fit in would debunk real physical laws if it actually existed.  The only way to explain it properly would be to start from the ground up, so might as well through your textbook out the window.

That's why we should stick to speculating in terms of defined properties; after all, one could easily explain the macroscopic properties of a monople magnet, repulsive gravitational force, differing gravitational/inertal masses, FTL travel without relativistic effects, et cetera, but earnestly trying to fit any of those into real physics would drive most people insane.


Therefore, we know the following properties of Adamantine -no more, no less:

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[SPEC_HEAT:7500]
[MELTING_POINT:25000]
[BOILING_POINT:50000]
[SOLID_DENSITY:200]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:2600]
[MOLAR_MASS:55845]
[IMPACT_YIELD:5000000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:5000000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:5000000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:5000000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[TENSILE_YIELD:5000000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:5000000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[TORSION_YIELD:5000000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:5000000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[SHEAR_YIELD:5000000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:5000000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[BENDING_YIELD:5000000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:5000000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[MAX_EDGE:100000]
As far as we're concerned, Adamantine doesn't even form atoms; its mass could be perfectly distributed throughout its volume like everything else in the DFverse for all we know.

[Mrhappyface]

One idea I've heard is rather unusual. Since adamantine is basically unbreakable and forms in strands inside of rock, they are actually HUEG versions of the vibrating strings that form up everything according to String Theory, transported here by the gods from a HUEG dimension.