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drh

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Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« on: March 12, 2012, 10:41:35 am »

My queen (who also happens to be a 1000-year-old openly-avowed vampire tyrant with a kill list of thirty-thousand, an original year-1 dwarf, and my civ's first and only monarch since worldgen) arrived on my map under rather unexpected conditions. I wasn't even a barony yet and had gifted some excess food to my civilization in preparation of eventually bringing in the monarch under controlled, paced conditions of development for safety and royal accommodation. Now not only does the liason not show up as expected, but neither has the caravan arrived for a number of years.

I had declined a barony but once, in order to choose an appropriate dwarf. If I remember correctly the Great Vampire Queen arrived that year, and since then I haven't had a dwarf caravan, though I'm not sure if the various sieges have interfered with them spawning on the map.

Have the conditions for becoming the capital changed in the new release? I'm assuming my ability to become a barony is shot.
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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 10:55:55 am »

When you become the mountainhome the caravans stop coming.  After all, you're now the capital, you should be sending!  Obviously this part is still in (slow) development.

Dunno about the monarch arriving early.  All I can tell is that your queen is far too badass to obey by the raws.  1,000 years old and 30,000 kills?  Fuck you, I'm moving in NOW.

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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 11:11:55 am »

As far as I can tell, the conditions for getting the King are now only total architecture and amount given to the Mountainhome after it appears as a condition in the Nobles screen.  In 31.x things given to the Mountainhome before that appeared didn't count towards the total given.  I don't know about 34.x because I didn't waste the goods to get the answer.  I always get a Baron, chosen ahead of time by reading over the preferences of married Dwarves who are otherwise useless, so I don't know if you have to become a Duchy before the King arrives.  It looks as if not taking a Baron skips that part even if it is otherwise necessary, from your results.
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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 11:15:38 am »

When you become the mountainhome the caravans stop coming.  After all, you're now the capital, you should be sending!  Obviously this part is still in (slow) development.

That still doesn't make much sense, as trade is a two-way deal. Those wagons of troll fur and goblinite have to end up somewhere.

Seriously, I seem to recall that caravans came in 0.31 even after the monarch arrived, though of course you never got the liason to request anything specifically. Maybe I'm just fuzzy on that detail, maybe it's changed in 0.34

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Dunno about the monarch arriving early.  All I can tell is that your queen is far too badass to obey by the raws.  1,000 years old and 30,000 kills?  Fuck you, I'm moving in NOW.

I was prepared to send her down the magma chute until I read about her in Legends and read her description and attributes. She became a vampire in the year 16, is bald and with perfect physical attributes and machiavellian-level intellect, creativity, focus, and patience. Terrible empathy, however. She also spawned with some skill with a blade; I want to find some way to arm her. I'll post some screenshots once I get them working properly (I'm running on Linux From Scratch without a full desktop-environment).

Such an Action Girl is worth the odd casualty.
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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 11:25:39 am »

Vampire queen kills your armorsmith.

Apologize to queen for tasteless meal.

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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 11:48:06 am »

allow the queen to kill whomever she pleases.

Is it possible to hammer or imprison the queen via normal dwarven justice system?

duplicate folder and force the queen to go insane, then abandon.  Check legends.  Or just keep your immortal insane queen locked in a tower or underneath your fortress.

Kill your queen, start a new fort under same civ, check legends 10 years later.
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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 11:54:47 am »

allow the queen to kill whomever she pleases.

Is it possible to hammer or imprison the queen via normal dwarven justice system?

duplicate folder and force the queen to go insane, then abandon.  Check legends.  Or just keep your immortal insane queen locked in a tower or underneath your fortress.

Kill your queen, start a new fort under same civ, check legends 10 years later.

Dwarven !!SOCIAL SCIENCE!! shows that royalty, despite apparently having a tag for criminal immunity, indeed can be imprisoned for murder.

Though now I'm wondering what I'm supposed to do for metals I can't get on-site...
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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 11:55:07 am »

I wonder if an berzerk vampire will feed on sleeping dwarves or just kill them.

Imagine if you will, a thriving fortress.  Hundreds of dwarves enjoying the decadence of waterfalls, masterful adamantine tables, beer roasts, and a cast obsidian tower from which to view the annual goblin slaughterfest.  Each room has a wonderful bed and private study, with access shafts for the domestic servants to make sure their pantries are kept topped up.

Except... sometimes bodies are found.  In the catacombs and tunnels of the access shafts, the Mad Queen wafts through on bare feet, only the red glare of her eyes warning of her approach.  She moves through the fortress, resting in the underbelly and tracking through the walls themselves.  A servant's door creeps open, a stifled scream, and the Queen's anger is abated for another month.

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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 02:26:23 pm »

Clad her in adamantine and make her assault the forces of hell on her own ! Such an evil badass must be able to do this.

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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 03:16:00 pm »

My queen (who also happens to be a 1000-year-old openly-avowed vampire tyrant with a kill list of thirty-thousand, an original year-1 dwarf, and my civ's first and only monarch since worldgen) arrived on my map under rather unexpected conditions.

I think vampire monarchs are awesome, but I'm kind of emo. Yours is the most awesomest I've seen, though.

You may have to rely solely on goblinite, or metal crap traded from the humans.  Set up a meat/bone/food/wood industry, or something self-sustaining.
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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2012, 04:04:16 pm »

I'm using a quick and dirty method for taking screens on FVWM. Forgive the big-honkin size.

Queen Kib, Dark Lady of the Splattered Turquoise:
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This is only the first page of her kill list:
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She became queen in 1, and was made a vampire in Earthfinds after profaning her god's temple in 16; in 20 she took a husband, and after being discovered in 24 openly revealed her status as an unholy predator and formed an oppressive totalitarian empire spanning 1000 years of history. Her husband died of natural causes in the decade of 80, having long-outlived his purpose.

She's got competent-level swordsdwarf skill though it's rusting. Is there a reliable way to train nobles in fighting and get them to pick up gear? I'd love to turn this one into a (pardon the pun) blood knight.
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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2012, 04:05:20 pm »

Pictures didn't show.

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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2012, 04:24:03 pm »

Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean. Only a true dwarf can rule, slay this abomination, even if it takes your greatest warrior.
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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2012, 04:27:42 pm »

Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean. Only a true dwarf can rule, slay this abomination, even if it takes your greatest warrior.

Fisherdwarf + Slade warhammer

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Re: Monarch showed up unexpectedly
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2012, 05:23:01 pm »

Back then in v0.31 nobles could be warriors, yeah. Do it !
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