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[Guedez]

I want to make a passageway that leaves my pyramid and goes all around it, from where my archers can shot down enemies. But for that to work properly, i need them to be able to shot through the ground. What is the best way to achieve this? floor bars?

[Loud Whispers]

Floor grates or floor bars. Keep in mind, enemies'll still be able to shoot at you...

[peskyninja]

magma?

[Flying Dice]

How do I shot ground?


Yeah, floor grates or bars.

[Guedez]

hmm, i hope i can designate faster than one by one.

they support right?

[Flying Dice]

You'll have to build them one by one. Though honestly, it would probably be easier to just build a wall or carve fortifications into one level of your pyramid.

[Girlinhat]

How does shot thru ground?

Put your pathway out a bit.  Don't build it directly over the road.

[Nil Eyeglazed]

Neither grates nor bars support.

You could also build fortifications, which may be easier to designate, and do support-- if you build a fortification without a floor, your dwarves can see through the bottom of the fort.

[Guedez]

hmm... since they do not support....

. = space
F = fortification
W = wall
f = floor
D = dwarf
G = gobbo

(The fortification is right above the gobbo)

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....FDW.....
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..........fW
........fW..
......fW....
....GW......
If i make it like this, any dwarf can shot the gobbo, and only elite marksgobbos can shot the dwarf?

or can/should i do like this?
(the fortification is right above the first wall

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.....FDW....
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..........fW
........fW..
......fW....
....GW......
also, for this specific situation, carved fortifications and built fortifications have any difference(since the dorfs are not stepping on it)?

EDIT: fixed diagrams

[Karnewarrior]

Why not just build a wall around the pyramid and use that normally? Maybe build alittle stone village under the looming structure above?

Because that would be totally badass.

[Nil Eyeglazed]

I'm assuming that the dwarf is standing on a floor?  If so, the dwarf cannot shoot the goblin in either of those diagrams, because he is limited to a 45 degree view angle in any particular direction-- in other words, he can't shoot at a goblin 5 z-levels below him unless it is also 5 x-levels away from him.

However, if, in either of those diagrams, the dwarf is standing on a floor grate or horizontal bars, I believe he can shoot the goblin.  (At least, he can get interrupted by the goblin.)

[Guedez]

Why not just build a wall around the pyramid and use that normally? Maybe build alittle stone village under the looming structure above?

Because that would be totally badass.

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..........fW
........fW..
......fW....
....GFDW....this? the gobbo can shot me since he can touch the fortification, although i doubt they will do that on purpose

I'm assuming that the dwarf is standing on a floor?  If so, the dwarf cannot shoot the goblin in either of those diagrams, because he is limited to a 45 degree view angle in any particular direction-- in other words, he can't shoot at a goblin 5 z-levels below him unless it is also 5 x-levels away from him.

However, if, in either of those diagrams, the dwarf is standing on a floor grate or horizontal bars, I believe he can shoot the goblin.  (At least, he can get interrupted by the goblin.)

I think that this one would work then, but it looks horrendous, so i was looking for a better solution

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...........fW
.........fW..
.....FffW....
....GW......

On a side note:

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...........fW
.........fW..
......ffW....
....GW...... This is how my pyramid really looks. (the first floor have 3 'standable' floors instead of two as the others, can't remember why i did like this)

[Karnewarrior]

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..........fW
..FD....fW..
..Wf..fW....
.GW..W......More akin to that, actually.

[Guedez]

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..........fW
..FD....fW..
..Wf..fW....
.GW..W......More akin to that, actually.

if Nil Eyeglazed is correct, the dorf can't see the gobbo. Also too close to the borders, i used all the space possible on a 2x2 embark for the pyramid

[Karnewarrior]

Build it on the pyramid, then? I mean, this is dwarf fortress... Just have ramps up the side to a giant wall halfway up the pyramid that's the real entrance to your fortress!