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Felsite
« on: March 11, 2012, 01:58:58 am »

"Felsite" is the name of the 3rd month of the dwarven calendar, covering late Spring. "
In previous versions, Felsite was also an igneous extrusive layer stone; it has subsequently been replaced with Dacite.

I know this is a very old change, but how did i not notice the fact that dwarves have a month named after a nonexistant stone?
Anyone think this should be considered a bug, or just think it's interesting in some way?
Further digging shows that Felsite is more of a type of rock consisting of dacite, andesite, rhyolite etc, so maybe it's not wrong for a month to be named after it, but still I wonder how i didn't notice it was gone.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2012, 02:02:41 am »

I think Felcite sounds better, and that Toady should change it back.

I also consider it a bug.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2012, 02:17:18 am »

Mayby try a bug report whit the Intended tag?
if toady sees it, he will either close it or "fix" it.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2012, 03:11:39 am »

It's not a bug, "Felsite consists of a fine-grained matrix of felsic materials, particularly quartz, sodium and potassium feldspar, and may be termed a quartz felsite or quartz porphyry if the quartz phenocrysts are present. This rock is typically of volcanic origin, and may be found in association with obsidian and rhyolite." -Wikipedia So felsite is found with obsidian, rhyolite and dactite. Toady just decided to remove the stone from the game, and leave the calendar alone. The same way: why isn't there any rhodonite or mantmorillonite in the game
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2012, 03:17:39 am »

As far as I know, "felsite" was removed/renamed because it doesn't refer to a specific-enough type of rock. That doesn't mean the concept doesn't exist, or anything like that.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2012, 03:18:39 am »

It's not a bug, "Felsite consists of a fine-grained matrix of felsic materials, particularly quartz, sodium and potassium feldspar, and may be termed a quartz felsite or quartz porphyry if the quartz phenocrysts are present. This rock is typically of volcanic origin, and may be found in association with obsidian and rhyolite." -Wikipedia So felsite is found with obsidian, rhyolite and dactite. Toady just decided to remove the stone from the game, and leave the calendar alone. The same way: why isn't there any rhodonite or mantmorillonite in the game

This was all already known. The point was that it doesn't make sense for dwarves to name a month after a stone that -to them- doesn't exist. Obviously, if Toady plans to add it back at some point, the calendar is fine, but if Felsite is out for good, the calendar should change to reflect that. We don't have months named after fictional Roman emperors, after all.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2012, 03:34:26 am »

It's not a bug, "Felsite consists of a fine-grained matrix of felsic materials, particularly quartz, sodium and potassium feldspar, and may be termed a quartz felsite or quartz porphyry if the quartz phenocrysts are present. This rock is typically of volcanic origin, and may be found in association with obsidian and rhyolite." -Wikipedia So felsite is found with obsidian, rhyolite and dactite. Toady just decided to remove the stone from the game, and leave the calendar alone. The same way: why isn't there any rhodonite or mantmorillonite in the game

This was all already known. The point was that it doesn't make sense for dwarves to name a month after a stone that -to them- doesn't exist. Obviously, if Toady plans to add it back at some point, the calendar is fine, but if Felsite is out for good, the calendar should change to reflect that. We don't have months named after fictional Roman emperors, after all.

We do have months named after Roman gods.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2012, 03:36:35 am »

Real gods though, sure gods may be fictional but if they were really worshipped that arguably makes them not fictional.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2012, 03:37:45 am »

Real gods though, sure gods may be fictional but if they were really worshipped that arguably makes them not fictional.

hmm, thats true.
I'm expecting this thread to derail soon.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2012, 05:01:23 am »

It's not a bug, "Felsite consists of a fine-grained matrix of felsic materials, particularly quartz, sodium and potassium feldspar, and may be termed a quartz felsite or quartz porphyry if the quartz phenocrysts are present. This rock is typically of volcanic origin, and may be found in association with obsidian and rhyolite." -Wikipedia So felsite is found with obsidian, rhyolite and dactite. Toady just decided to remove the stone from the game, and leave the calendar alone. The same way: why isn't there any rhodonite or mantmorillonite in the game

This was all already known. The point was that it doesn't make sense for dwarves to name a month after a stone that -to them- doesn't exist. Obviously, if Toady plans to add it back at some point, the calendar is fine, but if Felsite is out for good, the calendar should change to reflect that. We don't have months named after fictional Roman emperors, after all.

It's not that felsite doesn't exist to dwarves, it's that no stone in the game is identified as "felsite" because "felsite" is too general a term for the game to use to identify a particular stone type, or otherwise uses a sort of classification that DF's stone typing doesn't.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2012, 06:32:58 am »

It's not a bug, "Felsite consists of a fine-grained matrix of felsic materials, particularly quartz, sodium and potassium feldspar, and may be termed a quartz felsite or quartz porphyry if the quartz phenocrysts are present. This rock is typically of volcanic origin, and may be found in association with obsidian and rhyolite." -Wikipedia So felsite is found with obsidian, rhyolite and dactite. Toady just decided to remove the stone from the game, and leave the calendar alone. The same way: why isn't there any rhodonite or mantmorillonite in the game

This was all already known. The point was that it doesn't make sense for dwarves to name a month after a stone that -to them- doesn't exist. Obviously, if Toady plans to add it back at some point, the calendar is fine, but if Felsite is out for good, the calendar should change to reflect that. We don't have months named after fictional Roman emperors, after all.

We do have months named after Roman gods.

And days named after Norse gods

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Re: Felsite
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2012, 01:19:14 pm »

Rename Dacite back to Felsite? Problem solved. They're functionally identical if I recall anyways.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2012, 01:29:56 pm »

da·cite
Noun:
A volcanic rock resembling andesite but containing free quartz.


fel·site
Noun:
Felsite (also called felstone) is a very fine grained volcanic rock that may or may not contain larger crystals

So yes, pretty much. Note that felsic is the name of a group of light-colored silicates that occur in igneous rocks.
 

 
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2012, 02:41:27 pm »

It's not a bug, "Felsite consists of a fine-grained matrix of felsic materials, particularly quartz, sodium and potassium feldspar, and may be termed a quartz felsite or quartz porphyry if the quartz phenocrysts are present. This rock is typically of volcanic origin, and may be found in association with obsidian and rhyolite." -Wikipedia So felsite is found with obsidian, rhyolite and dactite. Toady just decided to remove the stone from the game, and leave the calendar alone. The same way: why isn't there any rhodonite or mantmorillonite in the game

This was all already known. The point was that it doesn't make sense for dwarves to name a month after a stone that -to them- doesn't exist. Obviously, if Toady plans to add it back at some point, the calendar is fine, but if Felsite is out for good, the calendar should change to reflect that. We don't have months named after fictional Roman emperors, after all.

We do have months named after Roman gods.

And days named after Norse gods

Or rather Saxon/old English gods.
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Re: Felsite
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2012, 04:50:09 pm »

The stone and the month should both be renamed mantmorillonite.  It's a much cooler word.
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