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silverskull39

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Empty Volcano
« on: March 10, 2012, 01:49:24 pm »
Was testing a modded race out (I wanted to see if giving a created race a civ with permitted jobs and also the common domestic/pet tags would allow you to train/tame them and put them to work in your fortress. Essentially they're just renamed dwarves right now.) So I start my fort by embarking on a volcano, in case I decide I want to make the fort long term, and this is what I get:
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Is this bugged? What should I do with it? I'll update this post with the world and embark location if anyone wants it, but it's modded so worldgen params probably won't help. I have a cheated embark point amount because this was supposed to be a testing world, and the ethics of dwarves has changed too... also, cave crocs are common_domestic, too, because if you can't get your slaves to work the next obvious step is to throw them in the crocodile pit.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 01:52:44 pm »
Open both lakes  ;D ;D
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 01:54:05 pm »
It is indeed bugged, but if neither of those lakes are edge connected, the site is otherwise completely viable. Building a fort inside the hollow tube, or carving out the edges to make a kind of canyon city would be the most obvious fort ideas, I suppose.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 01:59:49 pm »
I had this problem a while back in version 34.03 or something. Giant slade tower from the top of a volcano down to the bottom. The cavern lakes were draining into the magma sea.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 02:04:11 pm »
is that magma draining into the HFS?
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2012, 02:10:50 pm »
no, i genned this world without HFS.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2012, 02:13:16 pm »
Now you must fill it with magma, then with water and carve the obisidian to create a dwarven utopia.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2012, 02:39:02 pm »
Don't forget that DFHack was made to work with this exact type of situation.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2012, 02:46:45 pm »
Quote from: silverskull39 on March 10, 2012, 02:10:50 pm
no, i genned this world without HFS.

This is why. This has happened to me before, and it's a bug. Genning a world without the hfs can (unsure if always) cause volcanoes to be empty.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2012, 02:53:51 pm »
didn't know that. I don't usually gen without HFS.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2012, 03:57:39 pm »
what really matters is if it will refill over time.
make a fort inside using no magma safe materials exept for hatch covers. doomsday level is to seal off the fort and have it slowly fil up with magma.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2012, 05:50:31 pm »
won't refill, as the draining water plugged up the bottom. still a tempting place for a fort, but my tests with the project I was working on have concluded unfavorably (apparently it's also been tried before) and I'm considering moving on to bigger and better things.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2012, 05:54:18 pm »
This is the sort of nifty embark I want.


Must try to reproduce.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 06:43:44 pm »
Quote from: kaijyuu on March 10, 2012, 05:54:18 pm
This is the sort of nifty embark I want.


Must try to reproduce.

Just genned another world with the same settings and found a volcano with much the same results.
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Re: Empty Volcano
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 06:46:08 pm »
I had the same. I did a "beginners" world with many nicer features, no evil stuff, and no hfs. Plus empty volcanos breaching cavern lakes and killing the FPS.

Did not know that no bottom layer caused this, thanks. Will do another beginners setting then, just add the hfs back in.
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