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[Zsword]

So, got my fort... mooostly established. (Forgot to tweek certain settigns, but blah) But, I'm at the issue of, I don't quuiiiiite have enough metals circulating my fort to get my military Armored, (weaponed, yes, armored? nooo....) and I was wondering if bothering with the bone pieces would be a worthwile endeavor, or if I should just save that for bolts/crafts and just wear leather pieces instead. (As far as my searching goes, the wiki says nothing on this matter.)

[slothen]

bone helms look cooler, and you can still wear them with leather hoods.

[Nihilist]

Here is the numbers - note impact is blunt and shear is edged.   
Bone
[IMPACT_YIELD:200000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:200000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
[SHEAR_YIELD:115000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:130000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]

Copper
[IMPACT_YIELD:245000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:770000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:175]
[SHEAR_YIELD:70000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:220000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:145]

Iron
[IMPACT_YIELD:542500]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:1085000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:319]
[SHEAR_YIELD:155000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:310000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:189]

Bronze
[IMPACT_YIELD:602000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:843500]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:547]
[SHEAR_YIELD:172000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:241000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:156]

It's effectively near copper for protection, a bit lower blunt protection, but more edged. Iron and bronze blow it out of the water however.

[Loud Whispers]

bone helms look cooler, and you can still wear them with leather hoods.

Funny how despite everything being in ASCII, we still worry about aesthetics :p

[Naryar]

bone helms look cooler, and you can still wear them with leather hoods.

Funny how despite everything being in ASCII, we still worry about aesthetics :p

but we picture that ASCII world in our heads when the visual exit isn't realistic enough for our tastes.

[Bilanthri]

bone helms look cooler, and you can still wear them with leather hoods.

Funny how despite everything being in ASCII, we still worry about aesthetics :p

Of course...What fun would a vampire pit be if you couldn't deck them out in the bones of their prey.

[thegoatgod_pan]

I'd almost say because everything is in ascii we worry about aesthetics.

[Sadrice]

Keep in mind that you can't make any torso armor out of bone or shell.  You can either use leather for that or make them some metal breastplates.

[nightwhips]

I'd almost say because everything is in ascii we worry about aesthetics.

This reminds me of how, in WoW, when they'd release a new armor set everyone would go ballistic because it didn't look cool, etc. on the forums. How I absolutely do not miss those days.

[rawrcakes]

bone helms look cooler, and you can still wear them with leather hoods.

Funny how despite everything being in ASCII, we still worry about aesthetics :p

but we picture that ASCII world in our heads when the visual exit isn't realistic enough for our tastes.

I'd actually dare to make the claim that the primitivity of the graphics enhance our imagination. At least it does for me. Roguelikes, MUD and early c64 games gives me very detailed, very awesome images, far more so than modern games and their bland overbloomed, anime-inspired repetitions.

Anyhow, a few more comparisons to the bone armor

Leather
[IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:25000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:25000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]

Silk
[IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:1150000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:1200000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]

Fiber cloth
[IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:600000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:600000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100000]

If all you've got is bone, leather and cloth, you should definately get some bone armor.

[Zsword]

All right, thanks for the info guys. ^.^

I'm probably gonna ditch this fort actually, I've got 3 rampant vampires (not that big of a deal) but, forgetting to edit down the small pop caps on INit screwed ME over in terms of how I wanted things to run, sure, everyones happy enough, a Feyed up Engraver ensuring that, as well as a Feyed Mason, meaning rediculously godlike Dining Room achieved in no time flat, but, having 20+ idles because I jsut haven't had the chance to set up the super metal/cheese/glass/soap/ceramic/magma/!!fun!! industry, and things advanced way out of hand. Though I did find plenty of metals, so it's not unsalvageable if one of you wants to pick it up, it's a pretty tame embark.... but, yeah. Again, thanks for the info, I'll know how to handle the situation next time it arises, that's for sure.

[Hyndis]

Bone armor is useful just because it doesn't take any metal to make and you can make large amounts of it quickly and easily, but as far as armor goes its terrible.

Steel is my go-to metal for general purpose military uses.

[FrisianDude]

bone helms look cooler, and you can still wear them with leather hoods.

Considering hoods are always 'cover' and helmets are always 'armor' layer and 'cover' is over armour, I don't see how this works. Leather hoods can be worn over ANY helmet, no?

[Zsword]

bone helms look cooler, and you can still wear them with leather hoods.

Considering hoods are always 'cover' and helmets are always 'armor' layer and 'cover' is over armour, I don't see how this works. Leather hoods can be worn over ANY helmet, no?

uhh.... what? You... proved no innacuracies in her statement... yes leather hoods can be worn over any helmet... That doesn't make her statement of 'oh, btw, remember you can also wear hoods over the Bone Helms' any LESS true...

and yes, Bonehelms do look cool.

[FrisianDude]

Ah, I took it to mean that bone helms can be worn beneath hoods and that makes them better than other material helms. My bad, Slothen meant that the leather hood adds protection, making bone helms closer to metal helms, right?