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TychoTheDwarf

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Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« on: March 09, 2012, 03:20:34 pm »

OK, so, a very good friend of mine is in the running for a scholarship prize from a site called Zinch.  She has her heart set very heavily on getting into college and needs all the help she can get.  If it isn't too much trouble I would appreciate it greatly if some of the folks here would suffer through the whole "make a Zinch account" thing so they can give her a vote.

http://www.zinch.com/ratte

Sorry in advance if this breaks some kind of forum rule but I'll be damned if I don't give it a TRY, for her sake.

EDIT:  Her Bio.
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Her Merits and Qualifications.
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There are some things that can't be spoilered into a forum post (easily).
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 03:26:39 pm »

While you're intentions seem noble...sorry but, it (scholarships through web raffles which require accounts) sounds very sketchy to me.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 03:58:57 pm »

It's a pretty above-board looking site to me.  It centers on scholarships/"shopping around" for colleges.  It's tied to Facebook, you can use your FB account to quickly set up your Zinch account.  Put whatever the hell you want into the signup fields, I don't care.  The voting ends midnight tonight and I am pulling HARD to get this friend that scholarship.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 05:33:20 pm »

I don't think anyone wants to sign up for anything to help the friend of someone someone who has 11 posts try to maybe win a scholarship.  We're not here for your friend's benefit.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 05:41:46 pm »

I don't think anyone wants to sign up for anything to help the friend of someone someone who has 11 posts try to maybe win a scholarship.  We're not here for your friend's benefit.

I'm sorry, when did this turn into a dick-measuring contest over postcount? I'm asking for some of your time and a little bit of effort and what you are doing right now is saying "You're not a popular kid on the playground yet, so nyeh to you and your friend." Heavens forbid you show a shred of charity or expend an ounce of effort on something that doesn't benefit you or your ego.  No, you're not here for my friend's benefit, but I'm asking if you would be willing to oblige regardless. I am pretty much combing through every single venue I am a member of and trying to garner support.  It's one thing for you to say "nope", it's another thing to play at these elementary-school level "he's the new kid, he's icky, ignore him and his friend" antics.  Because you were never a "new kid" and you never hoped someone would help you out despite your "new kid" status, right? Get real and grow up.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 05:48:14 pm »

I don't think anyone wants to sign up for anything to help the friend of someone someone who has 11 posts try to maybe win a scholarship.  We're not here for your friend's benefit.

I'm sorry, when did this turn into a dick-measuring contest over postcount? I'm asking for some of your time and a little bit of effort and what you are doing right now is saying "You're not a popular kid on the playground yet, so nyeh to you and your friend." Heavens forbid you show a shred of charity or expend an ounce of effort on something that doesn't benefit you or your ego.  No, you're not here for my friend's benefit, but I'm asking if you would be willing to oblige regardless. I am pretty much combing through every single venue I am a member of and trying to garner support.  It's one thing for you to say "nope", it's another thing to play at these elementary-school level "he's the new kid, he's icky, ignore him and his friend" antics.  Because you were never a "new kid" and you never hoped someone would help you out despite your "new kid" status, right? Get real and grow up.

Hahaha chill out.  It has nothing to do with post count so much as you having been here for two weeks and asking for people to do things not for you, but for your friend, who apparently can't even be bothered to ask us on her own.  Yeah, you're trying to help your friend, and that's cool, but you're being kind of rude by showing up and saying "sign up for this it helps my friend".  It's spammy as heck and not cool.

Edit:  I mean you straight up admit you don't care about the forum or its rules:
"Sorry in advance if this breaks some kind of forum rule but I'll be damned if I don't give it a TRY, for her sake."
You can't fault anyone for seeing that as sort of pointedly disrespectful.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 05:58:27 pm »

Because you wouldn't try that for a friend?

Besides, I was of the impression that postcount didn't matter much unless you were registered minutes ago on this forum :/
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 05:58:51 pm »

I don't think anyone wants to sign up for anything to help the friend of someone someone who has 11 posts try to maybe win a scholarship.  We're not here for your friend's benefit.

I'm sorry, when did this turn into a dick-measuring contest over postcount? I'm asking for some of your time and a little bit of effort and what you are doing right now is saying "You're not a popular kid on the playground yet, so nyeh to you and your friend." Heavens forbid you show a shred of charity or expend an ounce of effort on something that doesn't benefit you or your ego.  No, you're not here for my friend's benefit, but I'm asking if you would be willing to oblige regardless. I am pretty much combing through every single venue I am a member of and trying to garner support.  It's one thing for you to say "nope", it's another thing to play at these elementary-school level "he's the new kid, he's icky, ignore him and his friend" antics.  Because you were never a "new kid" and you never hoped someone would help you out despite your "new kid" status, right? Get real and grow up.

Hahaha chill out.  It has nothing to do with post count so much as you having been here for two weeks and asking for people to do things not for you, but for your friend, who apparently can't even be bothered to ask us on her own.  Yeah, you're trying to help your friend, and that's cool, but you're being kind of rude by showing up and saying "sign up for this it helps my friend".  It's spammy as heck and not cool.

If she had shown up, reg'd here and posted you would have dismissed that just as readily if not more so.  She doesn't play DF, she has no reason to be here.  The sole criteria on which I made the decision to post this thread here was that I knew there were human beings here and a few of them were bound to be charitable or at least polite enough not to do what you did.  Asking you or anyone else to vote for her isn't "spammy".  "Spammy" is when a bot with a keyboard-mash screenname comes in and posts about deals on fake Rolexes.  I did my BEST to make my request as polite and concise as possible.  Are you going to accuse petitioners who sit at desks near supermarkets of being "rude" too?

I am HOPING people will read her profile and see someone who deserves a shot.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 06:01:46 pm »

It's more about being polite and phrasing things a level or two above "please upvote my friend kthxbye".   I mean, look at the effort he put into calling me a dick-measuring bully trying to kick sand in his face compared to the effort he put into the opening post of the thread.  Were he really trying to sell us on helping his friend in a decent way, he'd probably go so such lengths as to to laborious deeds like "telling us her name" or "the major she's going for" or "who she is".
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 06:03:42 pm »

Truth? I got the impression he's sweet on her and is trying to play White Knight.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 06:07:22 pm »

It's more about being polite and phrasing things a level or two above "please upvote my friend kthxbye".   I mean, look at the effort he put into calling me a dick-measuring bully trying to kick sand in his face compared to the effort he put into the opening post of the thread.  Were he really trying to sell us on helping his friend in a decent way, he'd probably go so such lengths as to to laborious deeds like "telling us her name" or "the major she's going for" or "who she is".

The profile details that information better than I could.  I deliberately refrained from posting a wall of text as the opening to a thread that I wanted to grab people's attention with, not wax pedantic about my friend in.  I am asking you to look, read and vote.  If you feel she deserves it, anyway.

Truth? I got the impression he's sweet on her and is trying to play White Knight.

Why would it matter if I were? Why would it matter?
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 06:08:42 pm »

Pro-tip: OP information in a spoiler will get read by FAR more people than asking them to go to a foreign website, sign up an account and read someone's profile off that site, that they don't know.

It also shows you care enough about this community to put in some real effort in your OP. Which is what the Cap'n has been trying to tell you. This is a forum. Trust us. We'll read it.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 06:17:13 pm »

It also shows you care enough about this community to put in some real effort in your OP. Which is what the Cap'n has been trying to tell you.

Yeah, it's one thing to have a low post count and ask for people to sign up for something, and another thing entirely to have a two sentence thread asking people to sign up for something.  It's when it's both that it becomes really shady, and kind of weird.  Again, you assert that you don't care if you're breaking forum rules, so why wouldn't people question your motives or respect for the community?

Laying back on the whole "well I linked to a place where you can read more!" is silly.  No one phrases a proposition with "if you want to learn about why i think this, read this other thing entirely".  You claim not to want to fill up the thread by waxing pedantic about your friend, but the whole point of the thread is to try to help her get a scholarship.  You've made a complete disconnect between goal and method, here, and I'm hoping you recognize that you're going about this the entirely wrong way.

Other people on this forum, in the past, for instance tend to be a bit more organized about "help me / my friend out" threads, giving information, usually a message from their friend to the community directly.   Some even get creative and offer to do MSPaint scribbles in exchange for help or whatever.   There's a lot of ways to actually do your friend's cause justice.  You've literally taken the least effort route, while simultaneously propping up your own altruism on your friend's behalf as the reason for it.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 06:30:49 pm »

She's been getting the short end of the stick for a while.  I am firmly of the belief that she can and will do well in college.  She has AMAZED me with the level of knowledge she possesses in biology (for one example).  She is leaps and bounds above what I ever did in my schooling in SoCal.  She sincerely enjoys being of assistance to others and making others happy.  She has potential that I would hate to see wasted.

I can keep on rambling but the bio does a better job.

EDIT: I have been to way too many discussion forums where any message perceived as being a "wall o' text" gets dismissed with a tl;dr or something similarly asinine.  They're there to read things but not really.  Must be an attention span thing.
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Re: Trying to help a friend land a scholarship
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2012, 06:35:38 pm »

Congratulations you've turned your friend from some vague periphery non-figure into an actual person people will be more likely to want to help.   Doesn't it feel good?
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