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[UHaulDwarf]

This irks me too.
When ever I am looking for a room/building or looking to trade something or even trying to find the right gem to have cut.
Please make Dwarf Fortress alphabetical in order.

[telarin]

I can't think of any single feature I would like to see more than sorting some of the lists in DF. Specifically anywhere that dwarf names appear, and the longer lists in the stockpile screens. Alphabetical would be awesome, having selectable sort type would be even better.

[Rafal99]

This gets my vote when put in ESV.

[bluea]

I don't -quite- want "sort -everything- alphabetically".

I want:
Tab-to-change-sort-mode. Everywhere.

(u)nits, (j)obs, (R)ooms, (l)Artifacts ...
(b)uild, (z)Status(animals, kitchen, stone, -and- stocks)

So, sort modes can be one of:
(a) what we've got now.
(b) alphabetical.
(c) by value.
(d) by distance (when appropriate, naturally).
(e) by total quality.

The sort by distance/value portion is -already- done for the 'bring item to trade depot' screen. But it would be tremendously helpful in many other spots.

build-table -> I can alternate between 'generic material type' and 'exact items listed by distance'. I'd really rather that 'x-expand' was instead a toggle for sort-method. "Most expensive table" is then -easy-. No, I don't -care- if it's a quartzite table or a shale table, i care that it is -masterwork-. Thanks.

(I'd also kidnap the 's' command from the 'bring item to depot' screen to -everywhere-. With the single addition of adding "!" as -not-. So I can filter for -not- shale items. or whatever.)

[Inarius]

I agree !

I have the same problem with my "drowning room" where I assign my immigrants when I have too many of them.

It's really a pain to search for them. A string research (like in legends mode) or at least alphabetical list would be really appreciated ! Please !

The idea of bluea is quite good, but i think the menus are already very complicated, so i don't know if adding options would lighten them...

[Angel-of-Dusk]

I don't think anyone could disagree on this. Its just... Such a damn good idea.

[expwnent]

I also would like this feature.

[Khym Chanur]

I vote for "multiple sort modes" (alphabetical, value, weight, etc).  If we ever get that, I'd also vote for a weird mode: sort alphabetically by last word, then by first word.  For gems this would lump together all opals/agates/diamonds/etc.

[Bohandas]

I vote for "multiple sort modes" (alphabetical, value, weight, etc).  If we ever get that, I'd also vote for a weird mode: sort alphabetically by last word, then by first word.  For gems this would lump together all opals/agates/diamonds/etc.

This would definitely be the best thing to eventually have. Although for now I would settle for alphabetization and/or string search.

[bluea]

So:
(a) Alphabetical
(b) Alphabetical by (material category/last name/group descriptor 'diamonds, agates, etc.')
(c) by Value (I think I would split 'imports' and 'local construction' here too. As in, every single locally constructed item before the highest value import.)
(d) distance
(e) total quality. with wear.

There are several comments about how sorting everything would make 'string search' pointless. I disagree in the strongest possible terms. Yes, it makes searching for the -first- term - the term that's actually alphabetized - less useful. But practically everything has a laundry list of other plausible sorting methods and distinct string text.

Take the (b)uild-(C)onstruction menu. Alphabetical get's me ash(block), ash(wood), aspen.... on down to like 30 pages of different types of soap through every bar of every metal etc. Allowing -both- alphabetization and search-string, I can jump straight to 'coal'. Or hit 'soap' and just have an alphabetical list of soaps (ant soap, cat soap, forgotten beast soap...). Or bars, or blocks, whatever.

The "Bring item to depot" screen is a decent example of how these -almost- work together. It doesn't have 'sort alphabetically' - but it does have sort-by-distance and sort-by-value. I find that screen more useful in some respects than the 'stocks' screens. Except for the fact that it isn't always there and I can't easily toggle melt/dump/etc as you can from the stocks screen.

But you can narrow down certain questions more easily -there- because of the neat overlap of sort modes and searching-for-strings. (And the filtering in the left column!)

Regardless, the search string thing has a thread too now.

[Whatsifsowhatsit]

Yes, I too think there should be sorting, preferably different types of sorting. Alphabetical, value, distance, quality - these are all good ideas. But I think it should depend on the type of list, ultimately. For the animal list, for example, you'd want to be able to sort alphabetically by species, perhaps. That is, "ram", "ewe" and "lamb" would be listed together as well, perhaps under S for sheep or something. Same with "rooster", "hen" and "chick", under C for chicken. Khym Chanur's idea on sorting alphabetically by last word, then first word could work for certain other list types.

And I do agree with bluea that a search-for-string option would be useful on pretty much every list type, and wouldn't make the sorting obsolete (nor would sorting search-for-string).

I would also vote for this in ESV (how do you get it in... just by replying in the thread on that? It looks like they're talking about that as though it's already wrapped up, though), and agree with telarin (as you can see I'm doing a lot of agreeing) when they said,

I can't think of any single feature I would like to see more than sorting some of the lists in DF.

In conclusion... yes please!

[forsaken1111]

Yep, as I said in the OP, this was started by me trying to find elephant+giraffe+rhino leather in the stockpile list. The thing is hideous.

Being able to search is great too. Sort by value or weight could be useful too.

So I say have them all. Default to alphabetically, able to change to value or weight, and with a search option. Please Toady Please!

How about just condensing the various leathers into a smaller number of categories? I mean, if you saw a piece of leather, would you be able to say whether it's elephant or rhino? Does it ever make a difference, then, besides that an elephant produces more of it?

Origin of the leather is important. The animal might have special properties which the leather inherits, such as fire resistance, or it might be from a legendary creature. A big part of DF is the history behind items. I want to know if this hat is made from the hide of the legendary snow panther Chillbane who slew 140 humans over 8 years before being killed by the hero Maximus the Amazing in the year 458.

[Whatsifsowhatsit]

Origin of the leather is important. The animal might have special properties which the leather inherits, such as fire resistance, or it might be from a legendary creature. A big part of DF is the history behind items. I want to know if this hat is made from the hide of the legendary snow panther Chillbane who slew 140 humans over 8 years before being killed by the hero Maximus the Amazing in the year 458.

Agreed with this as well. It may sound ridiculous to non-DF players (and probably some DF-players), but that adds to immersion for me.

[DAOWAce]

4 years later, still no ABC sorting?

This is making crafting and building a nightmare for me as a new player.

I expect to be able to just look through the list and find what I need, but everything is just sorted completely randomly I have to go through it -all- instead of look under the letter it is.

Surprised there weren't more posts on this; got here from a google search.

Edit: Apparently DFHack includes sorting options, yet these don't appear to be documented?  As per the dfhack.init file:

# sort units and items in the on-screen list
keybinding add Alt-Shift-N "sort-units name" "sort-items description"
keybinding add Alt-Shift-R "sort-units arrival"
keybinding add Alt-Shift-T "sort-units profession" "sort-items type material"
keybinding add Alt-Shift-Q "sort-units squad_position" "sort-items quality"

Well, seems I've solved my own issue by exploring things..

Now if only they got added to the base game..

[Adam Mantine]

More important than any particular sort mode would be the ability to change sort modes. I'd also like screens to list just what it is they're sorting by, even if we don't get new modes, as that is not always clear.