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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #165 on: March 24, 2012, 04:53:19 pm »

Huh. This seems legit, except for the fact that they're beating around the bush alot. They want to solve the problem and get Joseph Kony arrested, and right now they are doing nothing to find him. Oh, to raise awareness, yes, and get information so that all the comfortable pacifists drinking tazo tea in their suburb can gasp and put their hands over their mouths and send money to an organization that they'll most likely forget about in a month.

In short, instead of finding him and dragging his homicidal ass to the ICC, they're raising money to raise awareness to get the government of America to grunt and send a few soldiers over to help the Sudanese, and other countries affected.

I also must point out that America is doing it for Europe. Again.

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« Reply #166 on: March 24, 2012, 05:36:05 pm »

...Doing what for Europe again?
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #167 on: March 24, 2012, 05:41:21 pm »

...Doing what for Europe again?
Nothing good.

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« Reply #168 on: March 24, 2012, 05:43:10 pm »

They want to solve the problem and get Joseph Kony arrested

Let me stop you right there.

Capturing Kony might have helped back when he was actually an important actor in the region. Currently, he is not even in Uganda. It is uncertain if he is even alive, and if he is, he is an irrelevant figure with no more than a few hundred followers, and is likely somewhere in the DRC or Sudan. The Ugandan military pushed him and his followers out of the country in 2006. At this point, drawing attention to the issue serves two purposes: generating profits for IC, and boosting Kony's ego (if he is still alive); he is an irrelevance at this point, and treating him as a serious threat is possibly the worst thing to do, as it increases the chances of an attempt on his part to return to the spotlight, which would cause further suffering for the Acholi. Furthermore, what aid IC did send to Uganda at least in part went to supplying arms to the Ugandan military, who aren't exactly "good guys", either.

Quite apart from that: No, they don't want Kony caught. As long as he is still at large and at least possibly alive, he makes an effective bogeyman to center fundraising on.
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« Reply #169 on: March 24, 2012, 06:02:48 pm »

They want to solve the problem and get Joseph Kony arrested

Let me stop you right there.

Capturing Kony might have helped back when he was actually an important actor in the region. Currently, he is not even in Uganda. It is uncertain if he is even alive, and if he is, he is an irrelevant figure with no more than a few hundred followers, and is likely somewhere in the DRC or Sudan. The Ugandan military pushed him and his followers out of the country in 2006. At this point, drawing attention to the issue serves two purposes: generating profits for IC, and boosting Kony's ego (if he is still alive); he is an irrelevance at this point, and treating him as a serious threat is possibly the worst thing to do, as it increases the chances of an attempt on his part to return to the spotlight, which would cause further suffering for the Acholi. Furthermore, what aid IC did send to Uganda at least in part went to supplying arms to the Ugandan military, who aren't exactly "good guys", either.

Quite apart from that: No, they don't want Kony caught. As long as he is still at large and at least possibly alive, he makes an effective bogeyman to center fundraising on.

My mistake. I came to this thread thinking that there was a problem to discuss. Instead, there's just another egotistical asshole who ran a charity than sounds good on paper but actually isn't at all. That's no offense towards you, just towards that asshole who runs IC.

I'll just be leaving then.

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #170 on: March 24, 2012, 06:05:46 pm »

Pretty much. And there really isn't a problem to discuss, except

another egotistical asshole who ran a charity than sounds good on paper but actually isn't at all.

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« Reply #171 on: March 24, 2012, 06:14:36 pm »

...Doing what for Europe again?
Uganda's in Europe, right?  Wait, no, Sudan apparently.
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #172 on: March 24, 2012, 06:43:08 pm »

...Doing what for Europe again?
Uganda's in Europe, right?  Wait, no, Sudan apparently.
:O

Err...

Sorry to break it to you, but Uganda's in Australia.

Uganda's in Africa bro D:
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« Reply #173 on: March 24, 2012, 06:45:12 pm »

/Facepalm/

I know Sudan and Uganda are in Africa, I meant that the US was sending troops to another country without any meaningful assistance from europe.

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« Reply #174 on: March 24, 2012, 06:51:28 pm »

I know Sudan and Uganda are in Africa, I meant that the US was sending troops to another country without any meaningful assistance from europe.
The White man's burden.

Rage to break it to you, but throwing soldiers at countries has been a good idea since when, and Europe is too busy killing rioters who are angry about tax cuts.

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« Reply #175 on: March 24, 2012, 06:56:49 pm »

I know Sudan and Uganda are in Africa, I meant that the US was sending troops to another country without any meaningful assistance from europe.
The White man's burden.

Rage to break it to you, but throwing soldiers at countries has been a good idea since when, and Europe is too busy killing rioters who are angry about tax cuts.

DAMN YOU GREEK GOVERNMENT, YOU SICK RARUAHRUHA

I feel like this is some kind of fallacy, maybe the kind situated upon a steep surface which never provides significant traction.

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« Reply #176 on: March 24, 2012, 06:58:58 pm »

I know Sudan and Uganda are in Africa, I meant that the US was sending troops to another country without any meaningful assistance from europe.
Or rather they aren't sending troops to another country and IC wants them to?
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« Reply #177 on: March 24, 2012, 07:03:27 pm »

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« Reply #178 on: March 25, 2012, 08:21:43 pm »

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« Reply #179 on: March 25, 2012, 08:23:27 pm »

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