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Author Topic: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!  (Read 4330 times)

WillowLuman

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How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« on: March 08, 2012, 01:12:23 am »

Unfortunately, I didn't use magma. Still pretty satisfying though. Here's the movie: http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-2421-howtobeatnecromancers

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So if the movie isn't clear, here's how:
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 01:15:26 am »

Did it have any interesting books?
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 01:19:25 am »

Did it have any interesting books?

I'll have to pick through the rubble and see, but I think books are listed as "tables" in Fort mode for some reason.

EDIT: Here are some of them. There are many!
It Is The Human
The Dwarf: Suddenly The Day Mourns in The Beginning
Annihilation: A Brief History - This one is bound in topaz and contains the secrets of Life and Death. "The writing is cheerful"
After The Mountain Halls
The Mountainhome Slippery
The Dwarves: The Fool Mourns
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 04:07:37 am »

This is incredibly amusing and appropriately dwarfy. I'd suggest a magma pit at the bottom, but then you don't get to keep the books!
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 04:32:07 am »

Oh geez. Now I have an image of a lone, industrious dwarf looking to avenge his entire civilization digging out a hollow shaft all the way down to the magma sea (or beyond!)... then looking on with grim satisfaction as he digs out the final support, watching an entire tower fall straight into the earth...
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 05:04:53 am »

Oh geez. Now I have an image of a lone, industrious dwarf looking to avenge his entire civilization digging out a hollow shaft all the way down to the magma sea (or beyond!)... then looking on with grim satisfaction as he digs out the final support, watching an entire tower fall straight into the earth...

I once embarked on a goblin tower back in 40d when that was a thing. Immediately sent the starting seven underground and sealed off, and spent the next long period of time undermining the entire map. Eventually I pulled the lever which collapsed the single support keeping the whole landmass, and the goblin towers, and their demonic leader, from plummeting to their deaths.

Half the fun was watching the migrants go berserk from starvation and murder each other.
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 05:17:08 am »

I have a question. What the hell were you playing as?
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 07:54:50 am »

1) you lost your miner in the process.  this could be construed as either a good or a bad thing, depends on his level of cheesemaking.
2) it is beyond cheap that you can lock the doors to a necromancer's tower. 
   a) the doors should be guarded by undead sentries
   b) even were you to reach them, it should be impossible to forbid a door that you did not place yourself
      i) or at least should require a dwarf to reach them physically..

Im thinking it would be more dwarfy to tunnel from the tower basement into a candy spire, funneling all sorts of !FUN! upwards like a fountain of death.  This would of course require some kind of automated system of hatches powered by a drowning goblin captive of some sorts..
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 08:00:41 am »

Why use magma? All those goblin bones will go to waste!

I will try this myself when I got the time.  :)
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 08:12:55 am »

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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 09:39:36 am »

I've actually come to dislike necromancers in fortress mode. When I embarked near a tower, the necromancer would wait in ambush chain resurrecting any dead I killed, (or my dead for added fun,) and I couldn't find him anywhere. It bothers me that resurrecting undead doesn't take them out of hiding. I was at war with the humans, elves, and goblins, so I thought the tower would be added fun, but when you can't see the necromancer, it sort of sucks.

I embarked more recently where I am at war with the elves and goblins, and I swear no tower was listed. I have been getting necro sieges though, but fortunately no ambushes. The necros like to run off the map after bringing a ton of undead into my territory though.
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 09:51:25 am »

2) it is beyond cheap that you can lock the doors to a necromancer's tower. 
   a) the doors should be guarded by undead sentries
   b) even were you to reach them, it should be impossible to forbid a door that you did not place yourself
      i) or at least should require a dwarf to reach them physically..

I'm all for the latter. It would be consistent. If an enemy takes your doors in fortress mode, you lose them. So, if you take a necro's doors, you should win them, and be able to lock them. That would require sending a dwarf through them, which would be a lovely use for a cheesemaker. Also suicidal.
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 09:56:19 am »

next time:
-magma pump stack to the top of the tower
-poke hole in ceiling
-enjoy your new oven
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2012, 12:33:06 pm »

2) it is beyond cheap that you can lock the doors to a necromancer's tower. 
   a) the doors should be guarded by undead sentries
   b) even were you to reach them, it should be impossible to forbid a door that you did not place yourself
      i) or at least should require a dwarf to reach them physically..

I'm all for the latter. It would be consistent. If an enemy takes your doors in fortress mode, you lose them. So, if you take a necro's doors, you should win them, and be able to lock them. That would require sending a dwarf through them, which would be a lovely use for a cheesemaker. Also suicidal.
That would actually be a really good idea. Something like, all existing doors on embark start off set to "captured by enemy, cannot lock." Perhaps even on reclaimed fortresses.
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Re: How to Beat Necromancers like a real Dwarf!
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2012, 01:32:29 pm »

How did you embark on a tower?
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