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Make all vampiric effects only activate once the new vampire has sucked blood.

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Make any special abilities only activate once the new vampire has sucked blood.

25 (28.4%)

Make any physical changes only take place once the new vampire has sucked blood.

7 (8%)

Make the transformation skill only available after sucking blood.

11 (12.5%)

Keep everything the same.

19 (21.6%)

Total Members Voted: 86

[detroy]

Happy to hear that.

[Zale]

Hey, has anyone else gotten anything like this:



An Ancient Vampire. Do they normally keep doing that?

[detroy]

Yeah, Ancient Vampire usually died in history...

But sometimes they live.

Got a question myself too, my human adventurer(demigod) has:

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superhuman strength,
high agility,
high toughness,
high endurance,
average recuperation,
average disease resistance,
and 1700 speed,

she lost her left arm in a nasty fight with elven bandits...So I confronted a werewolf, got bitten once, successfully turned into a white werewolf... there's one well-known disadvantage: her speed capped at 1290 while in human form. If I transformed into a white werewolf, the speed will be 1953, quite good compared with anything but a master-vamp.

That's not a big deal.

However, I found that her physical attributes changed while in werewolf form:

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below average strength,
below average agility,
superior toughness,
above average endurance,
low average recuperation,
below average disease resistance,

Too much buffs leads to wimpy?

[Xangi]

Yeah, Ancient Vampire usually died in history...

But sometimes they live.

Got a question myself too, my human adventurer(demigod) has:

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superhuman strength,
high agility,
high toughness,
high endurance,
average recuperation,
average disease resistance,
and 1700 speed,

she lost her left arm in a nasty fight with elven bandits...So I confronted a werewolf, got bitten once, successfully turned into a white werewolf... there's one well-known disadvantage: her speed capped at 1290 while in human form. If I transformed into a white werewolf, the speed will be 1953, quite good compared with anything but a master-vamp.

That's not a big deal.

However, I found that her physical attributes changed while in werewolf form:

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below average strength,
below average agility,
superior toughness,
above average endurance,
low average recuperation,
below average disease resistance,

Too much buffs leads to wimpy?

Those values are relative to the species average, and also don't take into account the 4000% strength buff you have. You're weak-ish for a werewolf, but you'll still destroy most enemies no problem. Try transforming again, they may change.

I'll try to fix this (if I can) so you won't get stats like that in the next patch, but I think it's a game engine thing. Don't worry though, those are basically saying the equivalent of "Well, for an elephant, you're a bit small".

[Xangi]

Hey, has anyone else gotten anything like this:



An Ancient Vampire. Do they normally keep doing that?

It happens, they can't use many of their abilities during worldgen, which is why you'll find vampires missing limbs and such. I tried to make them as string as possible, but even Inferno Fiends (which are the kings of my arena-mode FFA matches between my creatures) regularly get killed off by random elf adventurers.

[Xantalos]

How long does the lich transformation go on for? I've been waiting 5 days with one adventurer so I can go turn in a quest and nothing's happening.

[detroy]

I think the lich transformation is for eternity.

I wonder how a werewolf lich goes.

[Xantalos]

I think the lich transformation is for eternity.

I wonder how a werewolf lich goes.

NUUUUUUURRRRR

EDIT: Also, when you become a lich, you can't become an infernomancer. Don't know if vice-versa. But seriously, is there any way to reverse this?

[Xangi]

I think the lich transformation is for eternity.

I wonder how a werewolf lich goes.

NUUUUUUURRRRR

EDIT: Also, when you become a lich, you can't become an infernomancer. Don't know if vice-versa. But seriously, is there any way to reverse this?

Sorry for the late reply, the steam sale has been eating most of my time (and money).

Yes, the lich transformation is permanent, this is one of the reasons I was considering limiting the amount of secrets you can have at once. Also, was a werebeast/lich, you'll still get the enormous strength bonus in lich form, but you won't be able to transform. This is due to coding in DF, not my mod (you can't have more than one transformation active at once).

[Xantalos]

Is there any way to make it reversible, like adding an end time to the transform interaction?

[Xangi]

Is there any way to make it reversible, like adding an end time to the transform interaction?

Oh sure, I could do that, but the thing is, being a lich is SUPPOSED to be a permanent transformation. If you want to add an end to it, go into interaction_lich and change

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[SYNDROME]
[CE_REMOVE_TAG:HAS_BLOOD]
[CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION:START:0]
[CE:CREATURE:LICH:DEFAULT]to

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[SYNDROME]
[CE_REMOVE_TAG:HAS_BLOOD]
[CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION:START:0:END:X]
[CE:CREATURE:LICH:DEFAULT]Where X is how long you want the transformation to last. I think in the next release I will add a few limits just to stop people from accidentally getting powers that will disable their other ones.

[Xantalos]

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the help!

[detroy]

Well, the vampire blood is really weired...

First I've killed a master-vamp again (with the help of 14 companions and more than 10 farmers)...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

You pick up the giant bat blood and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
You pick up the giant bat blood and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
You lie on the ground.
The Human Bowman retches.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
The Human Bowman retches.
You stand up.
The Human Bowman retches.
The Human Bowman retches.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
You empty the kapok pod fiber backpack.
You pick up the *wingfruit jug* and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
You pick up the cypress jug and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
You fill your *wingfruit jug* with giant bat blood.
You drink the giant bat blood.
The Human Bowman stands up.
You drink the giant bat blood.
You drink the giant bat blood [16].

Nothing happened...again. I thought that BUG happens to me for another time...

Then I killed a lesser dwarf vampire...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Lokum Thobkobem, Dwarf lesser vampire has been struck down.
You lie on the ground.
The Crossbowman regains consciousness.
You pick up the Lokum Girdertrouble's dwarf blood and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
You fill your *wingfruit jug* with Lokum Girdertrouble's dwarf blood.
*** STARTING NEW GAME ***
** Loading Adventurer **
You drink the Lokum Girdertrouble's dwarf blood.
The Crossbowman gives in to pain.
You begin to transform!
You transform into a cougar!
You have transformed into a cougar!
You have nothing to examine.
You have nothing to examine.
You have nothing to examine.
You have nothing left to drop.

Maybe the vampire blood from their animal forms won't work? I recall that I never got drunk with master-vamp's blood (human form).

[detroy]

One thing I feel happy is that the speed is really GOOD!!

Her speed is 1818 as an elf vampire while in elven form. Better than any vampire adventurer before.

Although she is not as strong as were-wolf/bear, I consider it as a half way millstone to lichdom.

Since a feline vampire is not a living creature as a werewolf, she can't be husked, right?

[Xangi]

Well, the vampire blood is really weired...

First I've killed a master-vamp again (with the help of 14 companions and more than 10 farmers)...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

You pick up the giant bat blood and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
You pick up the giant bat blood and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
You lie on the ground.
The Human Bowman retches.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
The Human Bowman retches.
You stand up.
The Human Bowman retches.
The Human Bowman retches.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
The Human Hammer Lord retches.
You empty the kapok pod fiber backpack.
You pick up the *wingfruit jug* and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
You pick up the cypress jug and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
You fill your *wingfruit jug* with giant bat blood.
You drink the giant bat blood.
The Human Bowman stands up.
You drink the giant bat blood.
You drink the giant bat blood [16].

Nothing happened...again. I thought that BUG happens to me for another time...

Then I killed a lesser dwarf vampire...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Lokum Thobkobem, Dwarf lesser vampire has been struck down.
You lie on the ground.
The Crossbowman regains consciousness.
You pick up the Lokum Girdertrouble's dwarf blood and put it in your kapok pod fiber backpack.
You fill your *wingfruit jug* with Lokum Girdertrouble's dwarf blood.
*** STARTING NEW GAME ***
** Loading Adventurer **
You drink the Lokum Girdertrouble's dwarf blood.
The Crossbowman gives in to pain.
You begin to transform!
You transform into a cougar!
You have transformed into a cougar!
You have nothing to examine.
You have nothing to examine.
You have nothing to examine.
You have nothing left to drop.

Maybe the vampire blood from their animal forms won't work? I recall that I never got drunk with master-vamp's blood (human form).

One thing I feel happy is that the speed is really GOOD!!

Her speed is 1818 as an elf vampire while in elven form. Better than any vampire adventurer before.

Although she is not as strong as were-wolf/bear, I consider it as a half way millstone to lichdom.

Since a feline vampire is not a living creature as a werewolf, she can't be husked, right?

Sorry for the delay, my god have the last two weeks been retarded. I'm fairly sure every single educational institution in the San Jose area is run by idiots.

ANYWAYS, I've fixed the vampires blood thing a bit, the animal form blood DID work before (at least as much as any other vampire blood), but now it'll work all the time. I wanted to fix up the minor vampires a bit and make them better, but for the life of me I can't think of what so do. If anyone has any ideas, I'd gladly take them into consideration.

Also yeah, all vampires now get a small speed buff, to counter the whole "1280 speed" thing. I don't think she can get husked, but you might as well try it.