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Vampire Rework?

Make all vampiric effects only activate once the new vampire has sucked blood.
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Make any special abilities only activate once the new vampire has sucked blood.
- 25 (28.4%)
Make any physical changes only take place once the new vampire has sucked blood.
- 7 (8%)
Make the transformation skill only available after sucking blood.
- 11 (12.5%)
Keep everything the same.
- 19 (21.6%)

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Re: <<Better Vampires 0.9>> *Necromancer Types! Bugfixes! Almost Complete!*
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2012, 07:58:47 pm »

Inferni could relate to the raised dead, a special kind of zombie called Inferni. They burn with the fires of hell, and you will soon learn that not all evil comes from darkness. Some comes from blazing, bright fires.
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« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2012, 08:14:31 pm »

The names perfect the way it is, I say you keep it.  However if you really want to emphasize your werebeasts, then "Better Were's and Vampires" is nice.  I apologize for making a vague reference without a good description for Rensfeild.
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« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2012, 08:32:25 pm »

The names perfect the way it is, I say you keep it.  However if you really want to emphasize your werebeasts, then "Better Were's and Vampires" is nice.  I apologize for making a vague reference without a good description for Rensfeild.
Don't worry about it, I'm going to do something like Renfield anyway, so I guess it worked out   :)
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« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2012, 08:38:34 pm »

I have a suggestion for another Necromancer type, with a different host of curses. Enter the Chaos Mage!

Curse of chaos: Casts a curse which throws a targeted (live) foe into a blind rage. The cursed creature does not distinguish allies or foe, and has an even chance of continuing to attack you or attacking it's squad mates. Good for sending a master against it's cohorts.
Raise dead: The zombies employed by the Chaos Mage are agile and very angry. Rather soft, though.
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« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2012, 08:52:15 pm »

Perhapes a Wild Druid that makes Plant-Zombies? Hard to cut, viny, distinct lack of organs, but flamable?
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« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2012, 09:22:47 pm »

I have a suggestion for another Necromancer type, with a different host of curses. Enter the Chaos Mage!

Curse of chaos: Casts a curse which throws a targeted (live) foe into a blind rage. The cursed creature does not distinguish allies or foe, and has an even chance of continuing to attack you or attacking it's squad mates. Good for sending a master against it's cohorts.
Raise dead: The zombies employed by the Chaos Mage are agile and very angry. Rather soft, though.

I'll just add that curse to the normal Dark Sorcerer.

Perhapes a Wild Druid that makes Plant-Zombies? Hard to cut, viny, distinct lack of organs, but flamable?

Maybe. Let's see if I have time after all this is done.

FUN FACT: Infernomancers can shoot up to 5 fireballs at a time at a distance of 15 tiles!

EDIT:Alright, I'd say the Infernomancers are pretty good, on to werelizards! And perhaps Werebirds, but I don't want to make 2 creatures weak to the same thing, and I only have 1 common material left... hmm....
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 09:38:13 pm by Xangi »
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« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2012, 09:45:33 pm »

Hey guys, do you know if there's any way to (not using interactions) remove blood from a creature. My lich is spraying " " out his limbs after being nearly incinerated by an infernomancer, and I wan to fix that.
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« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2012, 10:01:44 pm »

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Hey guys, do you know if there's any way to (not using interactions) remove blood from a creature. My lich is spraying " " out his limbs after being nearly incinerated by an infernomancer, and I wan to fix that.

Eventualy, your lich may run out. Wait for that.  :P

Nah, in all honasty, you should be able to remove the tissue/liquid/ whatever the cool kids are calling it these days by removing a few tags off the base creature when it transforms.

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EDIT:Alright, I'd say the Infernomancers are pretty good, on to werelizards! And perhaps Werebirds, but I don't want to make 2 creatures weak to the same thing, and I only have 1 common material left... hmm....

Weredinos! All weak to the same thing, but have seperate niches.  Weredinos are actualy megabeasts, and are split into the powerful WereTyranosaur and the utterly massive but increably slow Werebrachiosaur.There death-substance should cleave thru them like literal butter, to keep up with the theme, and may or may not actualy spread anything from there bites. (Tiny, weakling weregecko syndrome from even attempting to mess with the kings of werecreatures?) Keep the other two main groups seperate but with a increased intolerance to there anti-metal, with perhapes a nearly unchanged human form for the werebirds. Werelizerds are presumably slow-reacting, and there ability to avoid things might suffer as well.
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« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2012, 10:04:47 pm »

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Hey guys, do you know if there's any way to (not using interactions) remove blood from a creature. My lich is spraying " " out his limbs after being nearly incinerated by an infernomancer, and I wan to fix that.

Eventualy, your lich may run out. Wait for that.  :P

Nah, in all honasty, you should be able to remove the tissue/liquid/ whatever the cool kids are calling it these days by removing a few tags off the base creature when it transforms.

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EDIT:Alright, I'd say the Infernomancers are pretty good, on to werelizards! And perhaps Werebirds, but I don't want to make 2 creatures weak to the same thing, and I only have 1 common material left... hmm....

Weredinos! All weak to the same thing, but have seperate niches.  Weredinos are actualy megabeasts, and are split into the powerful WereTyranosaur and the utterly massive but increably slow Werebrachiosaur.There death-substance should cleave thru them like literal butter, to keep up with the theme, and may or may not actualy spread anything from there bites. (Tiny, weakling weregecko syndrome from even attempting to mess with the kings of werecreatures?) Keep the other two main groups seperate but with a increased intolerance to there anti-metal, with perhapes a nearly unchanged human form for the werebirds. Werelizerds are presumably slow-reacting, and there ability to avoid things might suffer as well.
Ok, maybe for a different mod, it sounds awesome, but... holy crap. The werelizard is going to be like a bipedal dinosaur anyway, at least in appearance. Yeah, I tried removing the tags when he transforms, but it doesn't work, he still bleeds " ", but never runs out. Maybe I'll take a look at some creatures that don't have blood, and copy them.
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« Reply #69 on: March 12, 2012, 10:11:44 pm »

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Hey guys, do you know if there's any way to (not using interactions) remove blood from a creature. My lich is spraying " " out his limbs after being nearly incinerated by an infernomancer, and I wan to fix that.

Eventualy, your lich may run out. Wait for that.  :P

Nah, in all honasty, you should be able to remove the tissue/liquid/ whatever the cool kids are calling it these days by removing a few tags off the base creature when it transforms.

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EDIT:Alright, I'd say the Infernomancers are pretty good, on to werelizards! And perhaps Werebirds, but I don't want to make 2 creatures weak to the same thing, and I only have 1 common material left... hmm....

Weredinos! All weak to the same thing, but have seperate niches.  Weredinos are actualy megabeasts, and are split into the powerful WereTyranosaur and the utterly massive but increably slow Werebrachiosaur.There death-substance should cleave thru them like literal butter, to keep up with the theme, and may or may not actualy spread anything from there bites. (Tiny, weakling weregecko syndrome from even attempting to mess with the kings of werecreatures?) Keep the other two main groups seperate but with a increased intolerance to there anti-metal, with perhapes a nearly unchanged human form for the werebirds. Werelizerds are presumably slow-reacting, and there ability to avoid things might suffer as well.
Ok, maybe for a different mod, it sounds awesome, but... holy crap. The werelizard is going to be like a bipedal dinosaur anyway, at least in appearance. Yeah, I tried removing the tags when he transforms, but it doesn't work, he still bleeds " ", but never runs out. Maybe I'll take a look at some creatures that don't have blood, and copy them.

Look at things like the Iron Man. There might be something in there raws that has something special about no blood usage or something.

And yeah, perhapes the Weretrex is slightly overkill? Perhapes?  :D
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« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2012, 10:14:26 pm »

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Hey guys, do you know if there's any way to (not using interactions) remove blood from a creature. My lich is spraying " " out his limbs after being nearly incinerated by an infernomancer, and I wan to fix that.

Eventualy, your lich may run out. Wait for that.  :P

Nah, in all honasty, you should be able to remove the tissue/liquid/ whatever the cool kids are calling it these days by removing a few tags off the base creature when it transforms.

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EDIT:Alright, I'd say the Infernomancers are pretty good, on to werelizards! And perhaps Werebirds, but I don't want to make 2 creatures weak to the same thing, and I only have 1 common material left... hmm....

Weredinos! All weak to the same thing, but have seperate niches.  Weredinos are actualy megabeasts, and are split into the powerful WereTyranosaur and the utterly massive but increably slow Werebrachiosaur.There death-substance should cleave thru them like literal butter, to keep up with the theme, and may or may not actualy spread anything from there bites. (Tiny, weakling weregecko syndrome from even attempting to mess with the kings of werecreatures?) Keep the other two main groups seperate but with a increased intolerance to there anti-metal, with perhapes a nearly unchanged human form for the werebirds. Werelizerds are presumably slow-reacting, and there ability to avoid things might suffer as well.
Ok, maybe for a different mod, it sounds awesome, but... holy crap. The werelizard is going to be like a bipedal dinosaur anyway, at least in appearance. Yeah, I tried removing the tags when he transforms, but it doesn't work, he still bleeds " ", but never runs out. Maybe I'll take a look at some creatures that don't have blood, and copy them.

Look at things like the Iron Man. There might be something in there raws that has something special about no blood usage or something.

And yeah, perhapes the Weretrex is slightly overkill? Perhapes?  :D
They just have no vascular tissues, what's why they don't bleed. I'll just find one for the lich, and it'll be done.

Yes, the WereTyranosaur is a bit much XD

EDIT: Werelizards are about 1/3 done, with the 2nd type (werechameleon), being worked on next. It has the ability to camouflage, even in human form, though it gains much less in terms of strength to make up for this.
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« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2012, 11:11:58 pm »

Hey guys, I'm trying to make a tongue attack for the werechameleons, and for some reason it's not working.

Here is the attack:

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[ATTACK:TONGUE_LASH:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:TONGUE]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:lash:lashes]
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[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:1000]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK_VELOCITY_MODIFIER:10000]
(it's like that because I tried to use just the body token, but it wasn't having any of that)
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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TONGUE:MUSCLE_TEMPLATE]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:TONGUE:MUSCLE_TEMPLATE]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:TONGUE:FRONT]

Is added to put on the tissue layer. What am I doing wrong? The error log has nothing.
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« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2012, 11:37:55 pm »

I think that the tongue is internal (is in: Inside the mouth) and can therefore not be used for attacks. A theory, nothing more.
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« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2012, 11:41:42 pm »

I think that the tongue is internal (is in: Inside the mouth) and can therefore not be used for attacks. A theory, nothing more.
Yeah, that's what I thought, so I tried adding it outside as a separate part. Still no dice. I think I may have the attack syntax wrong or something, but I don't know where I screwed it up.
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« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2012, 11:59:17 pm »

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TONGUE:MUSCLE_TEMPLATE]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:TONGUE:MUSCLE_TEMPLATE]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:TONGUE:FRONT]

Is added to put on the tissue layer. What am I doing wrong? The error log has nothing.

First off, you don't need to define tissues and materials that are identical to muscle except in name; there's no reason to have duplicates when you can just use the original.

Secondly, you're putting a layer of muscle on top of the head. You're better off just making it a separate body part, like ears or the nose.
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