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Dorfus

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How stuffed am I?
« on: March 05, 2012, 06:04:36 pm »

Seriously. A FB came along with deadly blood and, at this very moment, another one has just come along.

Anyway, this FB came along with deadly blood. I contained him very well and only one person got affected. Now half my fort are falling over. Did his blood spread via this magical blood teleport stuff? Is there anyway to undo feint/drowsy/rotting people?

My god this was such a good fort and I think this one fool's ruined it by bleeding everywhere.
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Re: How stuffed am I?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2012, 06:12:57 pm »

Seriously. A FB came along with deadly blood and, at this very moment, another one has just come along.

Anyway, this FB came along with deadly blood. I contained him very well and only one person got affected. Now half my fort are falling over. Did his blood spread via this magical blood teleport stuff? Is there anyway to undo feint/drowsy/rotting people?

My god this was such a good fort and I think this one fool's ruined it by bleeding everywhere.
Dwarves which are infected with deadly blood will begin bleeding and the blood dropped on the ground is contagious... infecting more and more dwarves.  The infected are most likely going to die... they are walking dead because the game currently doesn't have any immune system for dwarves or even any *cures* for diseases/infections.  The infected are walking dead.
Your only hope for salvation is to quarantine your healthy unaffected survivors, which will then need to release water all thru your hallways/rooms to clean the blood on the floors, the infected will need to make peace with their gods and prepare for death... even your legendary XXXXXXX. 
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Re: How stuffed am I?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2012, 06:16:37 pm »

If you don't mind cheating much you can simply run dfHack's clean map command every 30 seconds or so until all of the infected dwarves are dead.
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Re: How stuffed am I?
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2012, 06:17:01 pm »

Seriously. A FB came along with deadly blood and, at this very moment, another one has just come along.

Anyway, this FB came along with deadly blood. I contained him very well and only one person got affected. Now half my fort are falling over. Did his blood spread via this magical blood teleport stuff? Is there anyway to undo feint/drowsy/rotting people?

My god this was such a good fort and I think this one fool's ruined it by bleeding everywhere.
Dwarves which are infected with deadly blood will begin bleeding and the blood dropped on the ground is contagious... infecting more and more dwarves.  The infected are most likely going to die... they are walking dead because the game currently doesn't have any immune system for dwarves or even any *cures* for diseases/infections.  The infected are walking dead.
Your only hope for salvation is to quarantine your healthy unaffected survivors, which will then need to release water all thru your hallways/rooms to clean the blood on the floors, the infected will need to make peace with their gods and prepare for death... even your legendary XXXXXXX. 
Or spread the blood even further.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2012, 06:17:30 pm »

Update: What a lovely sight. Mass enabling surgery on all my haulers and watching them all dash off to the hospital to cut up the children. I think I have this rot business under control.

Also the shoes seem to be helping - only children and some of the older dwarves are affected. None of this quarantine business, a knife will solve it no problem. Besides, plenty more children where they came from.

I now fully appreciate why they bumrush every +pig tail sock+ when someone dies. That stuff matters.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2012, 06:19:11 pm »

Oh god scratch that. The shoes, they do nothing!

I'm going to keep playing and pretend nothing's happened. I can always reclaim. Be interesting to see who survives.

Edit: I've pulled my dwarves back to the fallback fort. I build it for these emergencies so why not use it? It's got all my important people in it. Once the plebs drag over the food I'm good to go.

Edit 2: The deed is done. The fort is quarantined. There's a ton of soap and a atom smas decontamination unit in the fallback fort and all my good dudes. Now to see who survives what's left of the old fort.

Will the supplies last out....
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 06:48:00 pm by Dorfus »
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2012, 06:27:10 pm »

I've had some issues where pets will spread these sort of nasty substances. Not a whole lot can be done about that...unless you have some kitty booties.
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Re: How stuffed am I?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2012, 07:09:01 pm »

No entrance washing station? A trench with 3/7 water in your cavern entrance and a way to flush it out can save lives.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2012, 07:12:31 pm »

No, no washing station. First time playing in a fairly long time and it didn't occur to me. Never had a syndrome-bearing FB before.

Also, will dwarves even path through 3/7?

As it stands it looks like my quarantine has been successfull but I'm not sure they'll survive the tantrum spiral. On reflection, including my elite hammer and marks dorfs in the fallback fort may not prove to be so sensible after all.
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Re: How stuffed am I?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2012, 10:07:19 am »

Also, will dwarves even path through 3/7?
Yep, they'll quite happily walk through anything up to 4/7. 5/7 stops them pathing through it, they'll moan about dangerous terrain and if they fall in the drink then they need to swim or they'll drown.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2012, 10:37:36 am »

Dwarves will not path through 4/7 or deeper. Also, the so-called "dwarven bathtub" is useless unless everybody is wearing shoes, since anything barefoot that walks through it will still get infected by everything inside it.
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Re: How stuffed am I?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2012, 10:51:08 am »

Also, according to the wiki, dwarves won't drown in anything less than 7/7 water, so depths from 4/7 to 6/7 are good for training swimming, which involves locking dwarves in a room and filling it to between 4/7 and 6/7.

I've seen some designs for dwarven bathtubs that have constantly moving water (one 3/7 tile and two 2/7 in a width-three tub), and I remember it being suggested that that would destroy contaminants (or possibly just move them out of the tub and onto the walls, where dwarves won't touch them).  Never got around to testing it out myself.

May not be fast enough in a high traffic area, but there might still be applications where it would provide more benefit than problems for a shoeless fortress, assuming it works.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2012, 10:51:59 am »

trench with 3/7 water is effective.  A dwarf stepping into it will shed all contaminants into the first tile of water he touches.  However, until that tile is cleaned via DFHack or a dwarf, any dwarf that steps into that tile of contaminated 3/7 water will for a single frame, be covered head to toe in that contaminant.  After stepping out they will be completely clean again.  Therefore it is advisable to closely monitor these trenches when there are possible dangerous contaminants about.  Its also a good idea to make them at least 2 tiles wide and perhaps even put 2 in parallel with lockable doors, and make use of restricted traffic zones.

I discovered this (DF2010) when a guy that stepped into forgotten beast ichor bled all the way to the hospital, when he went through a water-trench he was cleaned, leaving the ichor there.  Subsequently 30 dwarves and animals stepped into the trench, were simultaneously cleaned, and began bleeding everywhere and were struck with blindness, filling up my hospital.  Only the original patient was permanently maimed by the syndrome.  The other patients only experienced temporary symptoms, but it gave me quite a scare.
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Re: How stuffed am I?
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2012, 01:15:14 pm »

Apart from atom smashing the contaminants, a good magma rinse is probably the most reliable way to get rid of them. Just watch out what you rinse. So yes, magma will solve this as well.
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Re: How stuffed am I?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2012, 03:34:08 pm »

Sounds like 28 weeks later.
So yes, magma will solve this as well.
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