[18:30:29] <Teseng> ihm
[18:30:45] <Teseng> who the hell decided to make themselves at home two inches from my deed
[18:31:28] <Teseng> Seriously, what the hell guys
[18:31:53] <Azated> Huh?
[18:32:03] <Teseng> You decide to settle two inches from my deed?
[18:32:11] <Azated> We thought it was abandoned.
[18:32:12] <Teseng> I guess I'll just expand my perimiter over you guys.
[18:32:32] <Azated> No structures, the deed owner hadn't been online in at least a week.
[18:32:40] <Teseng> A week?
[18:32:45] <Teseng> I was gone for 2 days
[18:32:56] <Azated> We've been here far more than that.
[18:33:30] <Teseng> Well sorry, but the deed isnt moving
[18:33:48] <Azated> We don't intend to either.
[18:33:52] <Teseng> You will.
[18:33:55] <Azated> We've put alot of work into this place.
[18:34:04] <Teseng> Think I didnt put work into mine?
[18:34:42] <Azated> I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that we don't really want to put a week of work into a place and then be booted off by a deed owner that we didn't know was still active.
[18:35:08] <Teseng> To be abandonded, you wait until the token drains itself
[18:35:10] <Teseng> which doesnt take long
[18:35:27] <Azated> We had no way of knowing how much was in the token.
[18:35:37] <Spirit templar> I'll take care of Young starving brown bear!
[18:35:39] <Azated> You could have levelled your area, planted a deed and then quit.
[18:35:52] <Teseng> I had something called Exams
[18:36:14] <Azated> That doesn't change the fact that we didn't know you would come back.
[18:36:26] <Teseng> THen I'm sorry, but I don't want you to stay
[18:36:40] <Teseng> Your giant terraforming already made it much easier to see that someone is up here
[18:36:56] <Azated> We intend to cover that up with dirt walls.
[18:37:03] <Teseng> and dirt walls arent visible?
[18:37:12] <Teseng> the mountain looked empty from the shore
[18:37:27] <Azated> That's why we'll build dirt walls, so people can't see the flattened ground.
[18:37:37] <Teseng> they just see giant dirt walls.
[18:37:49] <Azated> Not if we make them look natural.
[18:37:55] <Teseng> did you even ask anyone about the deed?
[18:38:06] <Teseng> or just assume on your own
[18:38:21] <Azated> Again, why would we need to? It looked abandoned in every sense of the word.
[18:38:51] <Teseng> In picky about my planning
[18:39:01] <Teseng> I didnt plan on bulding structures until I had mined down some more rock
[18:39:16] <Azated> Where were you planning to palce it?
[18:39:29] <Teseng> placing what?
[18:39:34] <Azated> The mine.
[18:39:45] <Teseng> i said mined down some, theres already a decent sized mine here
[18:39:54] <Teseng> it just has a cave door on it
[18:39:57] <Azated> Where?
[18:40:05] <Teseng> not far from the peak, its within my borders
[18:40:35] <Azated> Hostile. Awesome.
[18:40:47] <Azated> We can find a peaceful way to settle this.
[18:41:11] <Teseng> I spent 4 days in a goddamn rowboat before finally settlings here, and a month leveling of what we did
[18:41:18] <Teseng> settling here, rather
[18:41:35] <Azated> We have a group of at least 8 people who did similar work.
[18:41:37] <Teseng> slow going, sure, but thats why we picked up here
[18:41:51] <Teseng> You mean to tell me you moved 8 people to tiles away from an active deed?
[18:42:01] <Teseng> Do you have any idea how stupid that is? Not to mention rude..
[18:42:09] <Teseng> Abandonded or not, not wise
[18:42:13] <Azated> Like I've said several times, we had no diea it was active.
[18:42:25] <Teseng> You could have asked
[18:42:29] <Teseng> the king himself knew i was up here
[18:42:48] <Azated> Alright, I'll give you that, but we didn't want anyone to know we were here.
[18:43:04] <Teseng> same reason I was here, and the same reason only the king and a few people from elevation knew
[18:43:07] <Azated> If I went asking around about a random deed on a peak that took a day to get too, someone would assume we wanted to settle.
[18:43:18] <Teseng> could have mentioned the name
[18:43:28] <Azated> Same problem.
[18:43:29] <Teseng> Jah and a few other regulars know of it
[18:43:39] <Teseng> most people, dont
[18:43:43] <Teseng> those that do are friends
[18:44:01] <Azated> I aplogize, but we couldn't have known that.
[18:44:18] <Teseng> I'm sorry I seem irrational, but you just tossed away a months worth of work to be in seclusion
[18:44:27] <Teseng> to log in and find out a village decided to move in
[18:44:48] <Azated> You can still continue doing what you want. We haven't modified your area any more than you already have.
[18:45:01] <Teseng> Im not having a village next door
[18:45:03] <Teseng> one way or another
[18:45:15] <Azated> Why not?
[18:45:23] <Teseng> It defeats the very reason I moved up here
[18:45:35] <Teseng> if i wanted to be in a village, I'd join serenity bears or i'd go to elevation again
[18:45:38] <Azated> The same reason we did.
[18:45:52] <Azated> We don't need to itneract at all. You can ignore us, we can ignore you.
[18:45:58] <Azated> Interact*
[18:46:16] <Uristqwerty> Perhaps, then, the world is too small, since it seems nearly impossible to find a place where noone else is/has been.
[18:46:42] <Teseng> Its hard to ignore you when you're as close to my deed as allowed
[18:46:53] <Azated> Not really.
[18:46:58] <Teseng> Is for me
[18:47:04] <Azated> You can do what you want on your side, we can do what we want here.
[18:47:10] <Teseng> Theres only two ways we are gonna settle this
[18:47:11] <Azated> We won't enter your deed or perimeter.
[18:47:14] <Teseng> either you move, or you pay me off
[18:47:24] <Azated> And how much would that cost?
[18:47:36] <Teseng> cost of my token, minimum
[18:47:42] <Azated> Which is?
[18:47:46] <Teseng> 10s
[18:47:56] <Teseng> plus i'd want some for my troubles of having to move all my crap
[18:48:17] <Azated> Alright, then. If we pay you, how can we be sure you won't just use the money to expand your deed to our area?
[18:48:27] <Teseng> because I could do that right now
[18:48:35] <Teseng> and in fact was going to, but that stupid bear in the perimister didnt allow me to
[18:48:58] <Azated> But if you did it when we paid you, you wouldn't only have more terrain, but actually have made a profit.
[18:49:33] <Teseng> Don't get me wrong, it will cost more than 10s to make me move
[18:50:05] <Teseng> I'm not a bad guy, I just don't like it when strangers decide to make home in my home
[18:50:15] <Azated> Hardly. Unless it would interupt your business, which you don't appear to have, it would only cost time.
[18:50:37] <Azated> I can understand that, but we came here for the same reason as you.
[18:50:50] <Teseng> Except I came here to be alone with me and my two friends
[18:51:04] <Teseng> not two friends and a village
[18:51:16] <Azated> We came here to build a community settlement, with little desire to be involved in server politics.
[18:51:35] <Teseng> and I came here to live in peace, and take part in said politics
[18:51:56] <Azated> So, what are we going to do then?
[18:52:08] <Azated> We both want to live in seclusion, us moreso than you.
[18:52:09] <Teseng> well Im not going to be in peace with a village beside me
[18:52:48] <Azated> Like I said before, we can ignore one another.
[18:53:01] <Teseng> The problem lies in having to ignore someone right there
[18:53:04] <Azated> I can tell my people not to talk or interact with you or your friends.
[18:53:08] <Teseng> and besides, as much as youd like to think you could, we cant
[18:53:14] <Teseng> youll probably dig into my mine sooner or later anyways
[18:53:23] <Teseng> which is where all my gear is stored, at the moment
[18:53:35] <Azated> We have a mine at the base of the mountain. We were planning to dig one here, but we are perfectly happy to use that one.
[18:54:03] <Azated> If you want, we can help you dig your mine to whatever size you want, then build you supports to stop us tunneling.
[18:54:08] <Teseng> Say, you arent the guys that were in rowboats at the base of the mountain were you
[18:54:16] <Azated> That's us.
[18:54:25] <Teseng> after stealing your cart like twice, i figure youd go away
[18:54:40] <Azated> I didn't realize we'd lost a cart.
[18:54:54] <Teseng> I gave away your rowboats too, but they never came and got them
[18:55:00] <Teseng> apparently a corbita cant fit in that bay lol
[18:55:20] <Azated> It's a pretty shallow area.
[18:55:22] <Uristqwerty> What, a missing cart would be noticed with enough people at odd hours?
[18:55:38] <Teseng> Well, I went down there often
[18:55:42] <Teseng> and never seen any signs
[18:55:48] <Teseng> that you came back, anyways
[18:56:11] <Uristqwerty> Perhaps leaving an actual message might have worked better.
[18:56:15] <Azated> I'm not sure how we didn't know you were here if you've been online since we arrived.
[18:56:27] <Teseng> I never seen any of you online
[18:56:33] <Teseng> of course im not usualy online at this hour
[18:56:44] <Azated> We have people online for the majority of the day due to differing timezones.
[18:56:53] <Teseng> Then I am clueless as well
[18:57:00] <Teseng> I may no thave been on in the last few days
[18:57:02] <Teseng> but my friends have
[18:57:08] <Azated> Who are they?
[18:57:10] <Teseng> i mean, just mining down rock is all they'd do, but still
[18:57:12] <Azated> We may have met.
[18:57:13] <Teseng> Eden and Lyra
[18:57:24] <Azated> Their names don't ring a bell.
[18:58:37] <Teseng> a shame you enroached upon territory then
[18:58:53] <Azated> It is. But we still have no intention to move.
[18:59:44] <Teseng> I've already mentioned the requirements to get me to leave
[18:59:56] <Teseng> which is my token cost, and enough silver to fund me a nice trip back to Elevation
[19:00:06] <Azated> And I've mentioned that we have no way of knowing you won't just screw us over once we've paid.
[19:00:34] <Spirit templar> I'll take care of Young brown bear!
[19:01:17] <Azated> Why would it be so difficult for us to ignore one another?
[19:01:24] <Teseng> Because you are here
[19:01:31] <Teseng> you can't ignore something that exists right in front of you
[19:01:43] <Azated> You can, if you try hard enough.
[19:01:45] <Teseng> and I can already see you kill everything that moves, which is one reason i came here
[19:02:03] <Teseng> so you've destroyed most of the hunting with your 8 goons
[19:02:07] <Azated> We could limit ourself to this part of the mountain, and you can have yours.
[19:02:16] <Azated> Or, if you want, we can do our hunting elsewhere.
[19:02:19] <Teseng> as much as youd like to promise that, it wouldnt work
[19:02:27] <Azated> And why is that?
[19:02:40] <Teseng> because you cant directly control everyone
[19:02:46] <Teseng> even I cant speak for my friends wandering to your side
[19:02:51] <Teseng> the whole 'side' aspect is the issue
[19:03:14] <Azated> Our group has put alot of work into this. I'm sure none of them would want to jepoardize that.
[19:03:24] <Azated> And, if they do, it would be a simple matter to punish them
[19:03:29] <Teseng> then youd better have a fundraiser then, eh?
[19:03:31] <Azated> We've had to do it before, we can do it again.
[19:03:52] <Teseng> Im not going to share something I claimed
[19:04:02] <Teseng> to put it bluntly
[19:04:15] <Azated> I don't expect you to. However, you haven't claimed the entire mountain.
[19:05:10] <Teseng> I can fix that if youd like
[19:05:36] <Azated> If you want to claim every tile on the mountain, we can't stop you.
[19:05:51] <Teseng> would just expand perimiter is all, would prevent you from really doing anything
[19:05:56] <Uristqwerty> Good luck with the upkeep if you do, though.
[19:06:06] <Teseng> Perimiter is cheap as dirt
[19:06:08] <Azated> Which jsut reminded me, what about the other area at the base of the mountain?
[19:06:23] <Teseng> to the south?
[19:06:26] <Azated> The massive area with tall stone walls next to clay that is visible from the edge of the map.
[19:06:38] <Teseng> oh, you mean north
[19:06:42] <Azated> Yes.
[19:06:42] <Teseng> thats Serenity's edge
[19:06:44] <Teseng> or well
[19:06:50] <Teseng> was
[19:06:57] <Teseng> has been abandonded since i've been here
[19:07:03] <Teseng> however, a squatter took up camp there
[19:07:06] <Teseng> not sure if he's still there
[19:07:25] <Azated> The previous owners have come back a few times to claim some of their leftover items.
[19:07:25] <Teseng> but the walls have been there a looooong time
[19:07:39] <Teseng> i've helped myself to the items as well
[19:08:13] <Teseng> in fact im the one who catapulted down the rotting buildings
[19:08:17] <Teseng> or at least made holes in them all
[19:08:40] <Azated> So, you moved here, completely happy with the fact that a small fortress was right at the base of the mountain?
[19:08:49] <Teseng> it was long since abandonded
[19:08:57] <Teseng> i scouted well, and asked.
[19:08:57] <Azated> But it's still visible.
[19:09:06] <Teseng> yes, and its at the BASE of the moutain
[19:09:11] <Teseng> most people dont bother climbing up here
[19:09:16] <Teseng> theres a giant damn city to the south too
[19:09:22] <Teseng> thats visible...very visible
[19:09:23] <Azated> So were we, yet you stole our carts and gave away our boats?
[19:09:48] <Teseng> Yup
[19:09:53] <Teseng> As I said
[19:10:03] <Teseng> even moving in that close, which would be within my local
[19:10:08] <Teseng> is rude without asking
[19:10:17] <Teseng> if you would have asked to move in down there, i wouldnt have minded as much
[19:10:22] <Azated> It isn't. We need a team chat to communicate between the base down there and this peak.
[19:10:34] <Uristqwerty> Asking who? Nobody on, no messages left behind...
[19:10:44] <Azated> Exactly.
[19:10:48] <Teseng> How was i suppose to leave a message, waste my time building a damn sign?
[19:10:54] <Teseng> i could never find any tracks
[19:11:01] <Azated> You can have erected a house plan.
[19:11:05] <Uristqwerty> Only form of attempted communication is moving some objects that would be searched for, and then simply replaced...
[19:11:06] <Azated> It takes a few seconds to do so.
[19:11:41] <Azated> Well, looks like you have no desire to settle this peacefully.
[19:11:53] <Teseng> You're the invader here
[19:11:54] <Teseng> not I
[19:11:58] <Teseng> accidental or not
[19:12:09] <Azated> I agree. But we have done nothing to damage you or your property.
[19:12:18] <Teseng> you being here damages me
[19:12:52] <Azated> I can just as easily say my fear of being raided from the other servers damages me, therfore they must pay compensation.
[19:13:56] <Azated> What have we done that permanently prevents you from doing as you desire?
[19:14:15] <Teseng> being on my peak
[19:14:26] <Azated> What were you planning to do with it?
[19:14:26] <Teseng> listen
[19:14:31] <Teseng> i came here from a village, on the west shore
[19:14:37] <Teseng> the mayor cowarded out
[19:14:41] <Teseng> and left us
[19:14:45] <Teseng> we had to catapult our crap out
[19:14:57] <Teseng> i spent 4 days in a rowboat looking for a place for me and the villagers to call home
[19:15:05] <Teseng> i find this place, settle, put alot of work into it
[19:15:15] <Teseng> just to have some rats sneak in the back door and set up shop beside me
[19:15:20] <Azated> Alright, and how does that change anything?
[19:15:34] <Azated> Like I just said, we have not done anything to stop you doing as you please.
[19:15:42] <Teseng> See local?
[19:15:47] <Teseng> See how it says more than Teseng?
[19:15:49] <Azated> You can expand your territory, cut down trees, hunt animals, dig mines.
[19:16:21] <Teseng> the problem is, you're in my territory
[19:16:26] <Azated> So you're blaming us for your inability to not look at a word on the bottom of your screen?
[19:16:53] <Teseng> and you're blaming me for you settling right beside a damn deed
[19:17:00] <Azated> No, I'm not.
[19:17:06] <Azated> I never said anything of the kind.
[19:17:33] <Teseng> you expect me to give up territory for your own incompetence
[19:17:48] <Azated> Again, I never said that either.
[19:18:01] <Teseng> 'you get this side, we get this side'
[19:18:25] <Azated> I'm trying to avoid repeating what I've already said.
[19:18:44] <Teseng> Look, one of us are moving
[19:18:46] <Teseng> and you know my terms
[19:18:49] <Azated> You had that side to start with. As far as I know, you had no intention of doing anything with this side.
[19:19:41] <Azated> That's like a child playing with a toy. He sees another child with a different toy and he wants it instead, even though he saw it first and didn't want it at the time.
[19:19:56] <Teseng> Its different when you take a toy out of my toybox
[19:20:08] <Azated> This is hardly your toybox.
[19:20:22] <Teseng> my deed disagrees
[19:20:29] <Azated> Let me ask, did you plan on doing anything at all with this part of the mountain?
[19:20:38] <Teseng> i planned on doing stuff with the entire peak
[19:20:43] <Azated> Such as?
[19:20:46] <Teseng> one of the peaks is a meditation power tile even
[19:21:08] <Azated> And it will stay a power tile regardless of what we do here.
[19:21:11] <Azated> What else?
[19:21:17] <Teseng> Whatever i pleased
[19:21:24] <Teseng> I was going to have a path around there, not much, but something
[19:21:29] <Teseng> it doesnt matter
[19:21:35] <Teseng> 20s and i'll move
[19:21:37] <Azated> So, you planned to build a road and meditate on the peak?
[19:21:42] <Teseng> that will cover all of my costs
[19:22:03] <Azated> If we weren't going to pay the 10s, what incentive do we have to pay 20?
[19:22:10] <Uristqwerty> So, how fast does a settlement disappear if you leave two silver in is, and go inactive a week later?
[19:22:10] <Teseng> I said it would be more than 10s
[19:22:24] <Azated> No, you said the cost of your token.
[19:22:27] <Azated> Which is 10s.
[19:22:35] <Teseng> i said 'at minimum'
[19:22:38] <Azated> If you like, I can scroll up and paste the exact words.
[19:22:50] <Teseng> and i then said
[19:22:53] <Teseng> id want some for my trouble
[19:23:07] <Teseng> i've already paid in upkeep for this deed for over a month
[19:23:27] <Azated> Which I then argued would cost nothing, unless you were planning to be producing mass quantities of bottled air any time soon.
[19:23:39] <Azated> Okay, what is your upkeep?
[19:23:51] <Uristqwerty> Well, then, how can we tell the difference between 1 month inactive, on the last week(s) of upkeep, and one week inactive?
[19:23:59] <Teseng> As if i'd tell you, i'm not going to list my costs to you
[19:24:09] <Azated> Why not?
[19:24:31] <Uristqwerty> When there is no sign, or message of any kind, no evidence of in-progress construction...
[19:24:44] <Teseng> ok mr qqerty, you prolly just need to shush
[19:24:58] <Azated> Urist is right, however.
[19:25:09] <Azated> But we've already been over the miscommunication problem.
[19:25:16] <Uristqwerty> Arguing upkeep time and assumptions of inactivity with a wiki page open?
[19:25:21] <Teseng> and its your fault for assuming
[19:25:23] <Teseng> not mine.
[19:25:53] <Azated> Could you then answer urists previous question?
[19:26:13] <Teseng> check damage?
[19:26:20] <Teseng> if its low upkeep
[19:26:23] <Teseng> stuff rots faster
[19:26:30] <Teseng> ask in kingdom?
[19:26:42] <Azated> We're repeating ourselves, again.
[19:26:48] <Teseng> dont build until you get an answer or it disbands?
[19:27:09] <Azated> Again, a repeat of what we've already been over.
[19:28:14] <Rohto> okay what seems to be the issue
[19:28:54] <Azated> We're arguing about wether or not having a deed on part of the mountain means that Mr. Teseng here owns all of it.
[19:29:11] <Rohto> do you own the deed here?
[19:29:27] <Azated> Which one?
[19:29:35] <Rohto> [03:28:07] You enter Vendigroth Monastery.
[19:29:45] <Rohto> i see no other deed
[19:29:47] <Azated> That's Tesengs.
[19:29:56] <Rohto> and you have a deed?
[19:30:02] <Azated> I don't.
[19:31:48] <Azated> Apologies, my internet crashed.
[19:31:54] <Rohto> so whats the issue? if he owns the deed it's his land, he's paid for it
[19:31:57] <Rohto> you cant build within a certain perimeter of a deed or you risk problems
[19:32:08] <Azated> We aren't arguing that it's his deed.
[19:32:17] <Teseng> i mean seriously...you built as CLOSE AS YOU COULD to my perimiter
[19:32:20] <Azated> We arguing about the fact that he has claimed the entire mountain.
[19:32:39] <Teseng> my perimister is a steep dropoff now
[19:32:46] <Azated> He's said himself that he has attempted to make use move from the base of the mountain, which I wasn't aware of.
[19:32:56] <Azated> Make us move*
[19:33:10] <Teseng> well there wasnt this kind of acitivity down there
[19:33:22] <Teseng> i assumed it was some newbs poking around
[19:33:27] <Azated> How does that change anything?
[19:33:29] <Teseng> and i've hard carts go missing
[19:33:48] <Azated> All of these carts here, we've built ourselves.
[19:33:57] <Azated> If you can find one with your name on it, you can have it back.
[19:34:08] <Rohto> he has spent the money for a deed, its his land, untill you have a token with a deed here , your just greifing and trespassing. in which case he has full right to kill you on sight
[19:34:10] <Teseng> pfft, all mine are from serenity's edge
[19:34:21] <Azated> But we aren't on his land.
[19:34:33] <Azated> We haven't done anything to permanently damage his plans.
[19:34:55] <Teseng> theres a fucking hole in the peak that wasnt there before.
[19:34:59] <Rohto> your on the perimeter of his village, what if he chooses to expand another 20 tiles north? All of your work you just did here thats flat, will be his
[19:35:21] <Azated> I know that, but, as I said to teseng, we had no idea the deed was still active.
[19:35:36] <Rohto> he can claim anything and everything you do here by expanding his deed. which will render yours useless
[19:36:00] <Rohto> have you even tried asking about it? or contacting anyone?
[19:36:11] <Azated> Again, i understand that. But we had no way of knowing that he would come back and hadn't just planted a token, levelled his ground and quit.
[19:36:46] <Azated> No, we haven't. However, our reasoning was that, anybody who knew where it was would think we planned to settle here.
[19:37:04] <Azated> This rendering our point of settle useless.
[19:37:26] <Rohto> my advice would be to move away and find another spot, theres plenty on the server
[19:37:43] <Rohto> otherwise theres just going to be a constant conflict
[19:37:51] <Rohto> you can deed here anyways while his is here
[19:37:59] <Azated> We've put as much work into our area as he as. And again, as we've been over we have done nothing to change that side of the mountain.
[19:38:04] <Rohto> there has to be a minimum space between deeds
[19:38:14] <Azated> Is it in the rules?
[19:38:20] <Azated> If so, I will mvoe that far away.
[19:38:27] <Teseng> my deed, my rules
[19:38:40] <Azated> Wurms server, rolfs rules.
[19:38:46] <Rohto> not in the rules, its just if you try to put down a token, it will give you a message saying it's to close to another settlement
[19:38:56] <Rohto> it's more so game mechanics
[19:39:00] <Azated> What is that distance?
[19:39:22] <Rohto> it prevents any 2 towns/settlements from settling against eachother and therefor creating a blockade / wall
[19:39:55] <Azated> Alright, that makes sense. But what is the distance?
[19:39:59] <Rohto> if memory serves me correct it's either 50 or 100 tiles unless the village/settlement has marked the box to allow closer, then it's 25 tiles
[19:40:11] <Teseng> which I havent
[19:40:18] <Rohto> hats your choice teseng
[19:40:25] <Rohto> thats*
[19:40:37] <Azated> So we're free to live half way down this mountain, according to game mechanics?
[19:40:58] <Teseng> technically, but i'd prefer you go farther
[19:41:10] <Rohto> would you like me to assist you of finding a spot that's far enough?
[19:41:24] <Azated> If you could, I would appreciate that.
[19:41:38] <Rohto> no problem give me a moment and let me do some counting
[19:42:07] <Teseng> You realize, moving even that much, all your work is lost
[19:42:14] <Azated> I do.
[19:42:29] <Teseng> You've already tainted the top of the mountain
[19:42:46] <Azated> Which we've been arguing over for the last hour, to no result.
[19:42:58] <Teseng> plan on putting back all the dirt?
[19:43:05] <Teseng> making it a nice soft hill again?
[19:43:09] <Azated> And, if you want to play the griefing card, are there any griefing rules on this server?
[19:43:18] <Teseng> its a PK server friend
[19:43:27] <Teseng> if you want to be a carebear, go play freedom
[19:43:38] <Azated> Huh?
[19:43:51] <Azated> I'm asking if there is anything that means we can't 'grief'.
[19:44:02] <Teseng> no, no griefing rules
[19:44:10] <Teseng> theres nothing i've said that pertains to the game rules
[19:44:15] <Azated> Then we have no desire to replace the dirt.
[19:44:15] <Teseng> its the rule of the land
[19:44:36] <Azated> The rule of the land? Really?
[19:44:45] <Uristqwerty> I wouldn't call it griefing if that wasn't the intent.
[19:44:48] <Azated> So we're to go with unspoken laws over real ones?
[19:44:54] <Azated> And now you attack me.
[19:45:08] <Teseng> See?
[19:45:10] <Teseng> no game rules there
[19:45:13] <Teseng> thats law of the land
[19:45:34] <Teseng> can be more painful
[19:45:34] <Azated> So, the law of the land is 'do whatever you want', Correct?
[19:45:59] <Teseng> not really
[19:46:07] <Teseng> I've done nothing illegal
[19:46:10] <Teseng> if anything, you have
[19:46:25] <Azated> You understand that your argument makes no sense.
[19:46:29] <Rohto> aztaed
[19:46:40] <Azated> You just did what you wanted to in attacking me. We will do what we want to and not replace the dirt.
[19:46:42] <Rohto> i just moved 100 tiles from his token's edge
[19:46:43] <Azated> Yes, rohto?
[19:46:49] <Rohto> straight north
[19:46:55] <Rohto> i suicided to mark it with my body
[19:47:07] <Rohto> that should give you a good indicated
[19:47:09] <Azated> Thanks, I'll try to find it.
[19:47:15] <Rohto> it's directly north
[19:47:30] <Rohto> it's basicly just at the edge before dropoff
[19:47:40] <Azated> Isn't the minum 25 tiles?
[19:47:44] <Azated> Minimum*
[19:47:56] <Rohto> if he has the checkmark on his deed marked
[19:48:03] <Rohto> otherwise it's 100
[19:48:06] <Azated> And then 50 if he doesn't?
[19:48:11] <Azated> Ah, alright.
[19:51:51] <Rohto> anything else i can asist with?
[19:52:05] <Azated> I don't believe we've settle the argument just yet,
[19:52:19] <Azated> Also, I can't find your corpse.
[19:52:22] <Teseng> Yeah, i still dont have 20s in my pocket
[19:52:47] <Teseng> I may be tempted to go down to 15 if thats easier
[19:53:05] <Azated> Back to the total lack of incentive.
[19:53:16] <Teseng> I;d be gone?
[19:53:27] <Evilcherry> guards
[19:53:28] <Teseng> My word to the king himself, I'd leave
[19:53:34] <Teseng> disband
[19:53:35] <Azated> Once again, we don't know you won't use the money to expand your deed.
[19:53:46] <Rohto> i foudn qwerty
[19:53:50] <Rohto> this way qwerty
[19:53:51] <Azated> Don't take this personally, but like I said, i have no interest ins erver politics.
[19:53:53] <Teseng> I wouldnt risk my good name doing this
[19:53:56] <Azated> in server*
[19:54:05] <Uristqwerty> I'm not too attached to this location. The others probably are.
[19:54:25] <Rohto> azated
[19:54:28] <Rohto> this way
[19:54:33] <Azated> Your good name means nothing to me at this point in time. I have nothing to base your trust or lack thereof on, so I'm relying on facts.
[19:54:56] <Teseng> Would you rather give it to a 3rd part until i disbanded?
[19:55:08] <Rohto> 100 tiles
[19:55:15] <Azated> This is 100 tiles?
[19:55:18] <Teseng> 3rd party, even
[19:55:24] <Rohto> packed dirt
[19:55:42] <Rohto> tho it seems somone else is down here
[19:55:46] <Azated> Ah. Alright then, so we could plant a deed here?
[19:55:52] <Azated> That's our outpost down ther.
[19:55:55] <Azated> There*
[19:56:01] <Rohto> thats yours?
[19:56:21] <Azated> We're using it as a temp base until we settled the mountain, or, we were.
[19:56:25] <Rohto> so whats the issue? your already just there, why not stay there
[19:56:29] <Evilcherry> help
[19:56:29] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> I found the young brown bear!
[19:56:29] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> Now we are two, young brown bear.
[19:56:29] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> I also found the young brown bear.
[19:56:29] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> Now we are two, young brown bear.
[19:56:44] <Rohto> it's only like... 25 tiles or so up the mountain
[19:56:53] <Azated> Like I said, it's an outpost. We were using it to build what we need to level the mountain peak.
[19:56:54] <Rohto> not much higher
[19:57:06] <Rohto> ah i understand
[19:57:48] <Rohto> teseng seems to be willing to give up his token/deed for 20s
[19:57:57] <Teseng> I said id go 15
[19:58:01] <Rohto> if you wan the peak that is
[19:58:18] <Rohto> 15silver then
[19:58:24] <Azated> I don't think our group has more than 10 silver between them.
[19:58:36] <Rohto> will you disband? or trade them the deed? saves them the cost of buying one
[19:58:38] <Teseng> Well my deed cost 10s to even move here :/
[19:58:54] <Teseng> so thatd only break even, not countaing the upkeep cost
[19:59:14] <Rohto> ill let you two discuss this for a moment
[19:59:21] <Rohto> please be civil i will be watching
[19:59:21] <Teseng> for 20 i'd give them the token as is
[19:59:48] <Azated> Which is more than a fresh one would cost.
[20:00:11] <Azated> I think we've been reasonably civil so far, haven't we?
[20:00:26] <Azated> Apart from Teseng testing his 'law of the land' on me, that is.
[20:00:37] <Teseng> was proving a point
[20:00:50] <Azated> I think you'll find you proved my point.
[20:01:04] <Teseng> which is?
[20:01:16] <Azated> That we wouldn't be required to replace the dirt.
[20:01:24] <Teseng> required? no
[20:01:32] <Teseng> im not required to stop stabbing you like I did either
[20:01:38] <Rohto> please you two
[20:01:51] <Evilcherry> help
[20:01:58] <Azated> Alright, we're getting off-topic.
[20:02:14] <Evilcherry> help
[20:02:14] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> Here is the young brown bear!
[20:02:14] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> Beware of me as well, young brown bear.
[20:02:14] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> Whoa! Here I come, young brown bear.
[20:02:14] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> I'll help with the young brown bear.
[20:02:18] <Teseng> I was here first. I bought the token. I spent well over a month here.
[20:02:19] <Azated> So, you say you'll sell us your deed and move off for 15 silver?
[20:02:30] <Teseng> I said i'd move for 15s, or sell for 20
[20:02:33] <Azated> You're saying*
[20:02:39] <Evilcherry> help
[20:02:39] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> This will hurt some, young brown bear!
[20:02:39] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> I'll help with the young brown bear.
[20:02:39] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> I see the young brown bear.
[20:02:39] <Jenn-Kellon tower guard> Now we are two, young brown bear.
[20:02:52] <Teseng> 15 meaning i'd disband
[20:02:53] <Azated> I recall you saying you'd sell for 15.
[20:02:54] <Teseng> 20, i'd transfer
[20:03:02] <Azated> Ah, that's what I recall.
[20:03:31] <Azated> Alright, could I have a day or so to discuss this with my group?
[20:03:38] <Teseng> Sure
[20:03:39] <Rohto> [03:58:01] <Teseng> I said id go 15
[20:03:40] <Rohto> [03:59:26] <Teseng> for 20 i'd give them the token as is
[20:03:55] <Azated> Yeah, I was mistaken.
[20:04:18] <Rohto> the cheaper route is 20s, due to if u pay him 15s to move and disband, you still need to pay 10s for a deed
[20:04:26] <Rohto> you save yourself 5s
[20:04:41] <Azated> The problem there is that we'd have to expand the deed to cover our area.
[20:04:50] <Teseng> That's true
[20:04:53] <Rohto> nothing wrong with a large deed
[20:04:57] <Teseng> lol
[20:05:00] <Teseng> besides upkeep
[20:05:12] <Rohto> upkeep isnt that bad i dont think
[20:05:18] <Azated> I suppose that's a good point.
[20:05:24] <Teseng> its like 4s a month for my dinky one
[20:05:53] <Azated> Well, like I said, our group is reasonably poor. If we all agree on a course of action, we'll pool our money and see what we have.
[20:06:18] <Teseng> Thats understandable
[20:06:26] <Rohto> alright then
[20:06:26] <Teseng> I'm not trying to be a bully or anything
[20:06:37] <Teseng> Just sucks having your master plan ruined
[20:06:51] <Azated> I agree. That's somewhere we both suffer the same issue.
[20:07:16] <Rohto> your defending what is yours, but being not the nice-est about it. so. i think both of you could be a little more civil, but then again no ones died yet, so it's still doing well
[20:07:33] <Teseng> and as childish as it sounds, i think the 'i was here first' thing does carry some merit
[20:08:09] <Azated> I'm trying to avoid using 'cliche' retorts here, but it doesn't necessarily apply to the situation.
[20:08:23] <Azated> Anyway, we have it temporarily settled. Let's not dive back in, shall we?
[20:08:38] <Rohto> whoever deeds 1st basicly has the say so on the spot. It's rolf's way of ( whoever makes himthe money 1st can have it )
[20:08:57] <Rohto> mans gotta make a living
[20:09:07] <Teseng> mich still owes me 10s
[20:09:10] <Teseng> i forgot about that
[20:09:10] <Teseng> lol
[20:09:20] <Uristqwerty> Didn't quite get the sudden popularity that notch managed.
[20:09:47] <Azated> True. But, at the risk of starting another argument, we weren't inside his deed. Sure, we wouldn't have been able to plant our own, but we weren't on his land, per se.
[20:10:14] <Rohto> correct
[20:10:18] <Teseng> Yeah, but really, if somsone setup shop as possible close as allowed by the game..
[20:10:18] <Azated> Notch made more money than rolf because his game caters to the attention disinclined.
[20:10:20] <Teseng> would you be happy?
[20:10:33] <Rohto> you were just outside his perimeter, which he can rightfully expand though
[20:10:45] <Azated> I understand that.
[20:10:49] <Teseng> i mean, i can expand
[20:11:00] <Rohto> im off... please , once again, be civil
[20:11:03] <Teseng> but you're within the 'reasonable' expansion
[20:11:24] <Teseng> i cant expand a single tile without engulfing part of you
[20:11:46] <Azated> True.
[20:12:05] <Azated> But we've settle the argument. For now, at least.
[20:12:11] <Azated> Let's not continue the debate.
[20:12:33] <Teseng> well, i'll get back with you in a day or so i'd guess
[20:12:40] <Azated> Sounds good to me.
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