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[GoldenShadow]

I was building an underground pasture, I dug out a huge area all the way to the edge of the map where I was supposed to smooth and carve fortifications into it. I smoothed it, but I forgot to carve the fortifications. Anyway, I noticed the water wasn't draining, and made an entrance for the dwarves to go finish carving the fortifications. By now, the whole place is filled with water that 2-3 deep. Just low enough so the dwarves can walk through it easily. Anyways, after they are done, I noticed 3 babies stuck in the fortifications. I guess the water current pushed them out of their mother's hands. But now they seem to be stuck there. I can't dig those tiles out because its the very edge of the map and no one is going to retrieve the infants. any ideas?

[Raveline]

... rejoice because you've got a great way to make snatchers crazy ?

More seriously : can't you just destroy one of the fortification to access the tile where the babies are ? (Or I misunderstood the situation ?)

[Sphalerite]

The fortifications are in a map-edge, you can't deconstruct them.  Dwarves can't grab items or children out of fortifications, either.  Your only solution is to have the babies move out under their own power, but if they could do that they probably would have already.  Unless they can somehow survive until they become children, you're probably going to be stuck with dead babies in your map-edge fortifications.

[slothen]

Enjoy your ghost babies.

All of my ideas involve killing the babies by releasing magma or bow goblins next to them.

[Melzer]

... rejoice because you've got a great way to make snatchers crazy ?

More seriously : can't you just destroy one of the fortification to access the tile where the babies are ? (Or I misunderstood the situation ?)

Ge dug to the edge of the embark map and you can't dig that tile out

[Quietust]

If you're not averse to using utilities, you could use DFHack's "liquids" tool to spawn a 7/7 tile of water on top of the baby and then hope that it gets pushed out of the fortification when it spreads out.

[-Firestar-]

put a food+booze pile next to the fortifications to help them reach childhood?

[jccooper]

If you're not averse to using utilities, you could use DFHack's "liquids" tool to spawn a 7/7 tile of water on top of the baby and then hope that it gets pushed out of the fortification when it spreads out.

Just for the record, I should note this does work. Or, did for me the one and only time I've tried, so it's worth a shot, until the bug gets fixed.

[gchristopher]

DFHack's lua offers an option:

'v' select the baby, then type lua into the dfhack window, then:

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unit = dfhack.gui.getSelectedUnit();

Then, depending on which map edge they're stuck, do one of the following:

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unit.pos.x = unit.pos.x + 1; -- Moves the unit 1 right
unit.pos.x = unit.pos.x - 1; -- Moves the unit 1 left
unit.pos.y = unit.pos.y + 1; -- Moves the unit 1 down
unit.pos.y = unit.pos.y - 1; -- Moves the unit 1 up


[Quietust]

DFHack's lua offers an option:

'v' select the baby, then type lua into the dfhack window, then:

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unit = dfhack.gui.getSelectedUnit();

Then, depending on which map edge they're stuck, do one of the following:

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unit.pos.x = unit.pos.x + 1; -- Moves the unit 1 right
unit.pos.x = unit.pos.x - 1; -- Moves the unit 1 left
unit.pos.y = unit.pos.y + 1; -- Moves the unit 1 down
unit.pos.y = unit.pos.y - 1; -- Moves the unit 1 up


This is not completely safe, because it will leave "phantom" occupancy flags set in the old tile; however, since babies are always Prone, it likely won't cause too many problems.

[laularukyrumo]

Since liquidz was mentioned, you can also merely flood the area with water naturally, if you don't feel like cheating. 7/7 water tends to push things through fortifications, and if you're lucky, you'll push the baby back towards you (since I'm pretty sure you can't push them off the map edge into oblivion.)