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Kansa

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Re: Sim City 5
« Reply #660 on: March 07, 2013, 11:33:11 am »

I very much hope you are being sarcastic.

Preordering and not getting to play the game is anti consumer as fuck. Always on DRM is even more anti consumer.
Preordering EA games should NOT be encouraged, or EA will keep pulling shit like this. The only one who benefit from you preordering is the publisher essentially. Developers only get paid for hitting milestones in their shitty business model. Not just that, dayone DLC is a direct result of this preordering game, time that could be spend bettering the game is spend making insignificant bonuses to preorderes.

Bottom line; no matter how much you want to play the game. DO NOT PREORDER EA GAMES.

They are never going to change their ways unless you hit their pockets.

Honestly preordering any game is a bad idea whether it is from EA or not
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Re: Sim City 5
« Reply #661 on: March 07, 2013, 11:40:14 am »

I personally feel it's not too constrictive. You can always specialize a city, like say do a few with a little residential to get started then turn one of them to an all industrial one city while another is all residential with some commercial mixed in for shopping and have an all commercial one for major shopping. One region I was playing in someone had all industrial and I was getting all my stuff from him for my commercial zones. It's just a matter of patience and planning. Oh you could even have that industrial city powering your other cities (provided it has enough power plants to do so.) While the Commercial one provides water to the other cities.) Thus freeing up the space you would use for all the utilites per city for other uses.

I kinda wanted to avoid having to have loads of regions for different things, how bad would it be to just have it in a single region?
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Re: Sim City 5
« Reply #662 on: March 07, 2013, 11:54:16 am »

I very much hope you are being sarcastic.

Preordering and not getting to play the game is anti consumer as fuck. Always on DRM is even more anti consumer.
Preordering EA games should NOT be encouraged, or EA will keep pulling shit like this. The only one who benefit from you preordering is the publisher essentially. Developers only get paid for hitting milestones in their shitty business model. Not just that, dayone DLC is a direct result of this preordering game, time that could be spend bettering the game is spend making insignificant bonuses to preorderes.

Bottom line; no matter how much you want to play the game. DO NOT PREORDER EA GAMES.

They are never going to change their ways unless you hit their pockets.

Honestly preordering any game is a bad idea whether it is from EA or not

To this I agree, which is why I don't always pre-order. I think I pre-ordered one game and that was Borderlands 2. I usually buy my games outright, So I can wait and see what people have to say about it. It's all about personal experience, and opinion really. If you think it's worth it then that's ultimately all that matters. I personally don't care if you pre-order or not. It's when people go around saying your dumb for doing this or "your an idiot, now look your can't play the game." How was ANYONE to know 100% FOR CERTAIN that it would be this way. NO ONE can know 100% not even EA. Maybe EA was right, maybe they really didn't think the game would sell so much that it crashed their servers. Maybe sales where so high that it DID in fact overwhelm them. We don't know that for 100% certainty. We only know what we are told. Now I'm not an EA fanboy. But I'm not really wanting to bitch and whine. After calming down and laying back I realize how much of a pain it can be of what they are trying to fix. (Don't even mention the DRM, no I don't think EA would have had this problem if they had used no DRM or DRM like Sims 3 uses, which is virtually non-existent, but that's not the point. Maybe EA will patch for single players to game, doubt it though.)Anyhow servers, networking, all that can be a pain and when all the sudden the system gets pounded I actually wince. I am a computer geek and build my own computers. (Unless it's a laptop). I may not have the fastest of fastest stuff. Especially for a home server. (Old 1.6GHZ Celeron CPU, 2GB ram anyone?) But I do know what can happen when it gets overwhelmed. It's not pretty. As I've learned. So now I'm just going to sit back and wait. Am I happy, no. But there is nothing I can do about it, so instead of getting mad, I am using this time to do other stuff and attempt to plan my cities in advanced. (Unless I play with a few other people, then I'll see what the established ones have done and change my tactics.

This game isn't just plop power, water roads and zones anymore. You need strategics a little. Some people won't like this. Not saying the old simcity games were dumb or anything. I loved them and still play them and they still require strategy. But I am saying that the region setup now empathizes more strategy. This I like. It means that you can plan different cities and they will affect the WHOLE region.

As a group of us found out, we had a bummer region where one of the cities couldn't keep up with the police force and the criminals went to other's cities. Honestly, my city was going to need a complete revamp and I was readying to do so when we all decided to give that region up and go with a new build region. And that's when the server issues happened. Anyhow, my opinion still stands, it's a good game. Now that i've said that the anticipation of being able to play the game is mounting and I can't wait for the servers to be fully operational again!
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« Reply #663 on: March 07, 2013, 12:03:25 pm »

I personally feel it's not too constrictive. You can always specialize a city, like say do a few with a little residential to get started then turn one of them to an all industrial one city while another is all residential with some commercial mixed in for shopping and have an all commercial one for major shopping. One region I was playing in someone had all industrial and I was getting all my stuff from him for my commercial zones. It's just a matter of patience and planning. Oh you could even have that industrial city powering your other cities (provided it has enough power plants to do so.) While the Commercial one provides water to the other cities.) Thus freeing up the space you would use for all the utilites per city for other uses.

I kinda wanted to avoid having to have loads of regions for different things, how bad would it be to just have it in a single region?

A single region can have as many as 16 cities. The smallest region can hold 3 cities if I recall correctly. You don't need many regions, just pick a decent sized region and have many smaller cities. Once you have the basics on a single city. (Some basic rci) and a few services (Police, fire, garbage, school) then build a new city. Do the same thing only make it a little more specialized. (Do more Industrial than you normally would so this city may take a little longer to play.) Then go back to the other city and wipe the industrial part out and replace it with commercial or more residential.

You could probably pull it off with the smallest region. 3 cities, One for Residents, one for commercial, one for industrial (I would outsource garbage, and power (the polluting type) from the industrial city. Make sure ALL cities have fire, and police as well as medical coverage. Residential and commercial can have a small sewage/treatment area in a corner (Since I don't think sewage can be outsourced.) Residential can also concentrate on education. The sims from the residential area should and will go to the other cities for jobs and shopping. Each city is region aware.

Then expand to a larger region and repeat only this time have a fourth city concentrating on tourist (casino type city, kind of like Las Vegas).

Did that all make sense?
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Re: Sim City 5
« Reply #665 on: March 07, 2013, 12:09:10 pm »

Oh hey, shit keeps hitting the fan, EA keeps giving out shovels to people so they can throw more shit.

I just love it

"Why do they hate us so much?"

Me: "Uhhh... Simcity 5 doesn't work for a lot of people. The Sims 3 expansions are many game breaking bugs you knew about when the expansion was released that are still not fixed years later. Origin is DRM laden... AND you recently put out a statement that ALL your games, every single one of them from now on will include a 'social aspect' I think it is pretty obvious EA"
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« Reply #666 on: March 07, 2013, 12:11:40 pm »

Did that all make sense?

Sorry that was me screwing up the terminology, I meant single city not single region (the region is the whole map view with multiple city plots right?)
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Re: Sim City 5
« Reply #667 on: March 07, 2013, 12:14:57 pm »

Oh hey, shit keeps hitting the fan, EA keeps giving out shovels to people so they can throw more shit.
EA level = Master troll.

Yeah, you can ask for a refund.
We won't give you one, but you can ask.   ;D

Also being offered a 15% off coupon is practically a slap in the face. if you buy something that doesn't work you generally don't want something from the same company.
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« Reply #668 on: March 07, 2013, 12:22:15 pm »

Oh hey, shit keeps hitting the fan, EA keeps giving out shovels to people so they can throw more shit.
EA level = Master troll.

Yeah, you can ask for a refund.
We won't give you one, but you can ask.   ;D

Also being offered a 15% off coupon is practically a slap in the face. if you buy something that doesn't work you generally don't want something from the same company.
That's how I felt when I got my 15% off coupon!
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« Reply #669 on: March 07, 2013, 12:23:21 pm »

To be fair, banning a user account for things like Origin and Steam if a charge is disputed is standard practice by necessity. It isn't anything unique to EA; Valve would do the same thing. Otherwise every user of things like Origin and Steam would simply pay for everything through Paypal and keep doing chargebacks to get their money back. Friend of mine has abused a number of smaller companies through chargebacks. :p
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« Reply #670 on: March 07, 2013, 12:25:53 pm »

Did that all make sense?

Sorry that was me screwing up the terminology, I meant single city not single region (the region is the whole map view with multiple city plots right?)

Region is the whole map view with multiple city plots. Correct. You can have a self-sustaining city if you want. At that point it can be a little constrictive. But the region flow is actually not too bad once you get used to it. I'm not saying you or anyone else don't have an open mind, but it does require an open mind. Yes you could have HUGE cities in the older games. It could be fun, but I feel it's a little more challenging and realistic to have it the way of the Regions as you do need to plan things out a little more. It makes me feel like i'm truly building cites. My home town doesn't make everything we buy. It imports it from other and sometimes larger cities. (Ignore the importing from  x country stuff.) But the region way makes it more realistic in the fact that you CAN do this. One city makes the stuff, one city imports and sells the stuff, another city is a large residential area. Again, not saying no one has an open mind to it. But to just point out the bigger picture in case one didn't see it. I try and not be personal in my postings, so if anyone took it personal I am sorry.
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Re: Sim City 5
« Reply #671 on: March 07, 2013, 12:35:51 pm »

To be fair, banning a user account for things like Origin and Steam if a charge is disputed is standard practice by necessity. It isn't anything unique to EA; Valve would do the same thing. Otherwise every user of things like Origin and Steam would simply pay for everything through Paypal and keep doing chargebacks to get their money back. Friend of mine has abused a number of smaller companies through chargebacks. :p
Yeah, I know :P but still, if there's a legitimate problem with a product and the company states in a press release that they will offer a refund, having a little ass-wackbards legal loophole like this is a pretty crummy excuse.

Maybe I can ask for a refund for impulse buys on steam.  ::)
Then again, I always buy stuff on sale anyway.  ;D
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« Reply #672 on: March 07, 2013, 12:51:28 pm »

On a side note:

Apparently, if your city's health care is really, REALLY low, and has high germs, high pollution, you can get...
...zombies.

I must now nuke my city NewOnions. Because zombies.
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« Reply #673 on: March 07, 2013, 01:02:31 pm »

On a side note:

Apparently, if your city's health care is really, REALLY low, and has high germs, high pollution, you can get...
...zombies.

I must now nuke my city NewOnions. Because zombies.

Seriously! Sweet! lol
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« Reply #674 on: March 07, 2013, 01:21:01 pm »

Hey Spoilers!
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