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[Strife26]

It does! You've identified an aspect of the state of current US efforts against the drug trade. Congrats, I guess.

Being equitable, most of the other major countries in the world more or less have their thumbs firmly jammed up their arse on the subject, too *shrugs*

E: There are some more direct efforts, for what it's worth, from what I understand. Cooperation between US organizations and the people directly working against cartels down south, stuff like that. It's just relatively little and not even remotely enough to meaningfully impact supply and whatnot. Generally we just kinda' stick our heads in the ground, shit on local folks for relatively minor drug possession and whatnot crimes, and then pat ourselves on the back and call it day, having done little to nothing and probably making the situation worse.

You forgot the massive militarization of the police force and continual eroding of rights. The War on Drugs is Bad with a capital B.

[Dutchling]

It does! You've identified an aspect of the state of current US efforts against the drug trade. Congrats, I guess.

Being equitable, most of the other major countries in the world more or less have their thumbs firmly jammed up their arse on the subject, too *shrugs*

E: There are some more direct efforts, for what it's worth, from what I understand. Cooperation between US organizations and the people directly working against cartels down south, stuff like that. It's just relatively little and not even remotely enough to meaningfully impact supply and whatnot. Generally we just kinda' stick our heads in the ground, shit on local folks for relatively minor drug possession and whatnot crimes, and then pat ourselves on the back and call it day, having done little to nothing and probably making the situation worse.

You forgot the massive militarization of the police force and continual eroding of rights. The War on Drugs is Bad with a capital B.

you mean bagdhad should be bombed?

[Frumple]

Ha, trust me, wasn't forgetting that. Just talking primarily about efforts directly pointed at the cartels themselves (i.e. not exactly much).

Though the militarization and the rights erosion's about as much of an artifact of the war on terror as the war on drugs, insert air quotes as necessary. Interesting how pretty much everything we're actually calling a war nowadays seems to be reaming ourselves about as hard as anything else

[Loud Whispers]

you mean bagdhad should be bombed?

Isn't it already?

[Calidovi]

Interesting how pretty much everything we're actually calling a war nowadays seems to be reaming ourselves about as hard as anything else

War gets attention, necessary attention that puts forth the image of a red-blooded American freedom force instead of the broken contraption that is dealing with two of our greatest internal issues.

[Sheb]

So I was wondering, is there some kind of conservative equivalent of the Daily Show? I want to see people making fun of  democrats.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I mean, if you watch Fox with the right intent it's like that. But a genuine conservative satire show? Not really. It's a one way street, it seems.

Strangely, the closest thing I can recommend is King Of The Hill, since it portrays a fairly conservative lifestyle in a positive light and occasionally uses psycho liberals as plot points.

[Baffler]

I mean, if you watch Fox with the right intent it's like that. But a genuine conservative satire show? Not really. It's a one way street, it seems.

Strangely, the closest thing I can recommend is King Of The Hill, since it portrays a fairly conservative lifestyle in a positive light and occasionally uses psycho liberals as plot points.

This is the right answer.

[SalmonGod]

Problem is the conservative idea of political wit is... Not very witty or entertaining.

[Sheb]

I dunno, I'm sure you could dig up a lot of liberal saying stupid stuff. It's not like the conservatives have a monopoly on stupidity.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's kind of the same problem the LCS community had in trying to make a Conservative Crime Squad game. It's not that the reverse isn't possible, it's that the reverse isn't funny.

[Sheb]

I dunno, I always though that was in large part because the LCS community is pretty much Elite Liberal.

C++ laws forcing women in slavery don't make that much more sense than L++ laws mandating abortion, but as liberals one is funnier than the other.

It would be interesting to go to www.jebbush.com or something, hand them over the LCS code and see what they do with it.

[Frumple]

So I was wondering, is there some kind of conservative equivalent of the Daily Show? I want to see people making fun of  democrats.

'Bout the closest you're going to get is probably talk radio, if I had to guess.* Conservative equivalent to the Daily Show would be something off in Limbaugh's direction. I've heard several of 'em doing the 'make fun of (sometimes imaginary) liberals' thing. Biggest difference/issue is that they tend to either put pretty vile spin on it or segue into the whole metaphorical C++ insanity as a different part of the show. Not really pure satire, just a satire segment, or sprinkled intermittently through the rest of it.

*And, to be clear, it would be guessing. I both don't see any TV outside of in passing, and don't listen to the radio except when other people have it on (and often turn it off before I end up breaking something, because that shit gets infuriating), so my exposure is somewhat low.

E: Though good luck tuning in to any of it over in godless commie land. I guess some of them have simulcast or whatever it is nowadays, so you might be able to find stuff online? Gods be with you if you actually do find it and start trawling through, though. That shit can get pretty nasty. Enough bell whistles you could melt them down and equip every bell tower in the old world with new bronze. Or whatever the zog they make those bells out of. And that's assuming they're not just saying to hell with whistling.

[SalmonGod]

Seriously... if you haven't had much exposure to what reactionary conservatives say/react to as if it's political satire (in the U.S. at least)... it's basically making statements that are completely divorced from reality or non-sequitur logic and laughing smugly as if it's witty purely on the basis that they're clever for being among the oppressed minority that believes it.

I know it's easy to call that out as just a matter of perspective, but liberal satire at least makes actual jokes.  As in stuff that you could appreciate as witty content, even if you don't agree with it.  It's not just "This is funny because I'm calling people I disagree with stupid."  I'm sure conservatives could do the same, but something about their culture/mentality just doesn't seem apt to produce it.

[Baffler]

Considering Bay12 might as well have L+ engraved over the doorway, I'd say that it does come at least partway down to perspective. You don't find it funny because you disagree with it, and it makes you uncomfortable. Conservatives tend to dislike The Daily Show for that reason. After all, to the people he tends to target (except Bill O'Reilly, I'm not sure what's going on there) John Stewart is just being a dick. Really though the quality doesn't seem to be up to par. Maybe it's because the networks with conservative political leaning don't generally do entertainment (CBS, CNN) or keep the two separate (FOX.) It's just down to AM radio kooks that basically nobody would be listening to anyway.