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[Rolan7]

Yeah that sounds like something a government institution could step in and handle.  Then the students wouldn't need refunds, they'd have usable degrees.  Still may be in debt, but they get what they signed up for (the degree, the debt).

I assumed the issue was students mid-degree.  Transferring credits can be... very lossy.  Probably more so if the previous school went bankrupt and can't verify anything.  Those students are shit out of luck through no fault of their own.

[Truean]

http://news.yahoo.com/satanic-temple-holds-public-sculpture-unveiling-detroit-173259288.html

I've been saying it. I've been saying it forever. The satanists are lining up for that "Religious Liberty" stuff. You can't call their religion banned. You just can't, because they're technically a religion.... They believe in a supernatural set of beings with roots in religious texts like the bible and other old texts like Milton's Paradise Lost. Moreover they have their own holy book, the satanic bible, and others. This is totally what happens. They are not only a religion. They are a religion with origins in the bible. They got 'em. There's no way around it man.

Naturally, the satanic statue is in Detroit. Where else?

[Frumple]

... good for them? Last I checked most of the major satanist movements in the US are... well, they're healthier belief systems than a lot of the christian ones. There's worse groups to see making inroads of a sort, really. Could be prosperity gospel :V

They've been trying to get that statue up for a while, though, haven't they? Could have sworn I heard about that, like, years ago.

[Rolan7]

I just saw an interview on Fox about this!  I'd ignore the video title as it's a little unfair to the interviewer.  Though not entirely unwarranted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvgeCG2e-6c

This is a great victory though.  Like the Satanist says, neither monument ought to be allowed.  They were only filing to have the same sort of monument as the Christians had...  Pretty much as a demonstration of the state's hypocrisy on the matter.  And it worked!  I don't know what exactly this particular group of Satanists believe (there are very different kinds) but I'm excited that they stood up for religious liberty, and succeeded.

Considering that he's a *Satanist* on Fox, I think the interview went pretty smoothly until the very end.  The second part, where she interviews an ex-senator, was cringeworthy fundie nonsense.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The Satanist Temple is more or less a religious-issue blocking group. In addition to using these statues to crash Christian monuments, they also officiated same-sex marriages back when it was illegal and have filed suit against all abortion limitation legislation on the basis that they violate the religious liberty of a Satanist woman to have abortion on demand, as pleases Satan.

[ArKFallen]

Sounds really good tbh. They're fleshing out just how far and to what religious liberty extends.

[Graknorke]

How long has this been going on for? I remember it being brought up maybe a year ago.

Well, it's nice to remind people that their religion isn't the only one.

[Antsan]

It's not like these guys are actually worse than fundamentalist Christians. They just believe that God is an evil dictator and Satan the ultimate rebel, if I got that right.

[Angle]

It varies. Some of them are just Atheists with a hell of a sense of humor.

[SalmonGod]

My understanding is the most basic common defining feature among Satanist beliefs is that they're all about self-actualization, critical thinking, and moral relativity, as opposed to the sacrifice,  unquestioning subservience, and rigid absolution that is Christianity... and I'm quite alright with that.

[TD1]

Me too.

I'm more Satanist than Christian, I suppose. I dislike God's neediness and desire for me to stroke his ego, and admire Satan's strength, along with feeling empathy for his punishment.

Edit: Not that I believe either exists, but meh.

[Rolan7]

I don't think this counts as Satanism but, I have recently become convinced that Christianity makes much more sense if Satan is the antagonistic, worldly, bloodthirsty "god" of most of the Old Testament.
So I guess it's the opposite of Satanism because I really wouldn't like that guy.

But yeah victory for religious freedom wooo

[Tawa]

I dunno about Satan, but the Antichrist seems like a real bro.

[SalmonGod]

I dunno about Satan, but the Antichrist seems like a real bro.

The anti-christ in Good Omens sure seemed like one.

[Dutchling]

I dunno about Satan, but the Antichrist seems like a real bro.

The anti-christ in Good Omens sure seemed like one.

Wasn't he just a kid who wad no idea what was going on until the very end?