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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1290228 times)

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10515 on: July 05, 2015, 05:56:36 am »

I don't think that many (if any) people aren't prone to that kind of bias. There's a word for the idea, where people find it hard to separate the idea of a person with some good qualities not being good, or some bad qualities not being bad. Can't remember it right now though.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10516 on: July 05, 2015, 08:23:40 am »

What I meant to say is that they seem to miss the point of the video, which seems to say that being beautiful should not depend on your looks.

That might read like lunacy, but my lived experience actually is that the beauty of the people I meet is mainly a matter of what mindset I am in and what they act like, not so much their looks. Perceiving people as beautiful can be learned.
I dunno. I always thought of beauty as equated to personality. Physical looks are merely aesthetics for me. x3
Be careful with that: It has been shown that good looking people are judged to have a better personality by most people. I'm not sure I am not prone to that kind of bias.
Has been shown?
I think you may be talking about either the Halo effect, or that its speaking out of a specific set of physically beautiful people :P
Though I was like that before even knowing about these effects so...I'm unsure as to how far it applies. I could legitimately say its that way for me, because...the only proof I have is that I never felt otherwise different when speaking to people who look 'aesthetically more pleasing' than others who don't. I've been wondering all this time that it may, actually, be a social construct instead of anything else. But that's just me here. ._.

On that point: It's also because I've known and talked to a lot of people who I guess the west (or in general) wouldn't consider 'that pretty/handsome', but have AMAZING personalities. The benefits of non-urban areas. ;3

But anyway.
-that last paragraph; also snip-
Thankies :) I've been wondering about the exact wording to that kind of idea. I've come across it before but then was confused due to how it was worded. Too young to get it at the time. x_x
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10517 on: July 05, 2015, 09:04:50 am »

If one person has an affect and another person does not, that really doesn't give us an indication of it being a social construct or otherwise. At best, we can then say it varies. But plenty of social and biological things vary, so it's not very useful.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10518 on: July 05, 2015, 04:08:09 pm »

Sheriff Joe Arpaio to go on trial for retaliatory practices

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10519 on: July 05, 2015, 04:14:07 pm »

Sheriff Joe Arpaio to go on trial for retaliatory practices

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Oh hey he's being tried for something else. Last time he was tried for something, he had the judge's wife investigated by his own PI but was caught. He then demanded the judge abdicate due to a conflict of interest. This was only a few months ago.
This looks extremely criminal.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10520 on: July 05, 2015, 05:02:13 pm »

Sheriff Joe Arpaio to go on trial for retaliatory practices

Bonus: How many comments can YOU read before closing the page in disgust?

Meh, about half of them are idiots supporting him and the other half are saying its a good thing. For news site comments, that's a better ratio then usual
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10521 on: July 05, 2015, 05:27:56 pm »

That guy's been nationally recognized as one of the most horrible people on the planet for many years.  He's the icon of everything ugly about American policing.  Celebrities have led marches against him.  Prisoners under his jurisdiction die of neglect regularly, sometimes burning to death from being left in open cages in the Arizona sun all day in the middle of summer.  It's astounding that he's kept his career going for so long, and that's why it baffles me that I know some very liberal people who are working on moving to Arizona.  There has to be some severe reactionary hatred among the populace there to keep re-electing that guy.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10522 on: July 05, 2015, 05:32:40 pm »

That guy's been nationally recognized as one of the most horrible people on the planet for many years.  He's the icon of everything ugly about American policing.  Celebrities have led marches against him.  Prisoners under his jurisdiction die of neglect regularly, sometimes burning to death from being left in open cages in the Arizona sun all day in the middle of summer.  It's astounding that he's kept his career going for so long, and that's why it baffles me that I know some very liberal people who are working on moving to Arizona.  There has to be some severe reactionary hatred among the populace there to keep re-electing that guy.
Alternatively, he rigs the elections. I wouldn't put it past this guy to commit an election fraud.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10523 on: July 08, 2015, 09:12:05 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-people-longer-hours-235206730.html

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Forget the unemployed ( whitewashed official unemployment stats) or underemployed, this is more victim blaming. Following in W's footsteps, Jeb Bush is totally out of touch. Problem with unemployment, underemployment, stagnated wages, and massive income inequality? "Work harder you slackers!" "Get a job!" is basically what he's saying.

The poor working stiff's already doing the job of three people without making the proper pay of one.... The only people working longer hours are salary and they don't get paid for those hours to stimulate the economy.... Meanwhile Corporations are making record profits.... They won't hire, but will outsource jobs and bring in immigrants to do skilled white collar work and force the employees to train their foreign replacements.

Yes, this looks like yet another "47%" comment.

Tone... Deaf.

And hey, let's trump up the never ending war on terror while firing the troops too....

Let's not pay for anything, wonder why nobody has any money, and then complain. Sounds great....
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10524 on: July 08, 2015, 09:22:53 pm »

Military getting in on the downsizing.  Its difficult for me to feel bad about that.

As for the longer hours... I'd say "he clearly hasn't worked a minimum wage job any time recently" but I think that's a given for anyone in congress, certainly anyone making a serious bid at the presidency.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10525 on: July 08, 2015, 10:06:18 pm »

Military getting in on the downsizing.  Its difficult for me to feel bad about that.

QFT.

"he clearly hasn't worked a minimum wage job any time ever"

FTFY. Jeb Bush was richer than I'll ever be before he was even born. I'm not sure he's even capable of understanding someone who doesn't have any other option.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10526 on: July 08, 2015, 10:32:50 pm »

FTFY. Jeb Bush was richer than I'll ever be before he was even born. I'm not sure he's even capable of understanding someone who doesn't have any other option.

And the reason he's completely unable to relate to the lives of 90% of the population is the same reason he has influence over how they're allowed to live them.  Makes great practical sense.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10527 on: July 08, 2015, 10:49:21 pm »

I love how the aide clarified the comment was directed towards part-time workers and the underemployed, as if they're not often working over forty hours a week anyway. Apparently being part of the GOP establishment makes you physically incapable of grasping the concept of working two (or more) jobs, or what "local job market" means. It's always vaguely amazing how someone can make a statement that completely divorced from reality. Bonus points for calling someone else out of touch in the same breath :V

In other news, Jeb is a piece of crap, news at 11, florida has been telling all you folks that for years. We have a fairly clear example of what that bastard does in power, and the answer is "Shit on what he's governing."
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10528 on: July 09, 2015, 02:18:50 am »

Wait, how can you work 40 hours a week and be underemployed?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10529 on: July 09, 2015, 08:39:38 am »

I think that's freedomese for 'underpaid'.
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