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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1286204 times)

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9990 on: April 24, 2015, 08:44:51 am »

Our immune system is a bad system?
Bloody freaking terrible one, from any sane engineering perspective. Just like most of our biology. Have you seen all the different ways it breaks, and what it fairly often does when it actually works? Imagine what you'd call a computer system that badly fragmented a chunk of its data every time it loaded a file and had to include a defrag cycle to everything it did. "Bad" would just be the start of the string of invectives that would flow in response to something like that.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9991 on: April 24, 2015, 09:29:34 am »

:v our immune system causes problems like auto-immune diseases and things like cysts and etc, and its hijinks can worsen of a whole lot of other conditions. Then again, the human body has to deal tons of different pathogens and weird substances since unlike most animals, humans have a tendency to change their environment and what they eat quite often, plus theres all the weird substances we put in our food, so its kinda understandable that it goes insane at times.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9992 on: April 24, 2015, 02:10:11 pm »

Our immune system is a bad system?
Our immune system doesn't require our cells to flip out about the inequality between red and white blood cells and stage a communist revolution.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9993 on: April 24, 2015, 02:15:36 pm »

So staging a communist revolution is akin to taking down the whole immune system and substituting it for a unstable an inevitably doomed version? So Communism = AIDS?
I concur :P
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9994 on: April 24, 2015, 02:19:40 pm »

If we are comparing AIDS to communism, then that would require the revolution leaders to be space aliens.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9995 on: April 24, 2015, 02:22:48 pm »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9996 on: April 24, 2015, 02:39:03 pm »

What about capital-intensive fields, such as the automotive industry, power generation (come on, decentralized power generation is a pipe dream) and transfer, or shipbuilding? We used to not have big enterprises at all - look into the history of the industrial revolution to see why they were formed.

A powerplant that serves a whole city is still small enough for me. So is a shipyard. Some things, like power transmission and roads, would probably still be done by single large organizations. Things like the automotive industry, could probably be broken up into a series of parts - so you have organizations that make the schematics for your cars, and then organizations that make the cars themselves - and any of the manufacturers can use any design with minimal difficulty.

This is, of course, only the vague beginnings of an idea. I wouldn't even go so far as to call it a first draft.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9997 on: April 24, 2015, 02:55:41 pm »

Our immune system is a bad system?
Our immune system doesn't require our cells to flip out about the inequality between red and white blood cells and stage a communist revolution.
Correct. That is cancer and tumors, which usually coopt the immune system so they can continue to (not) function.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9998 on: April 24, 2015, 06:24:20 pm »

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-iowa-casino-error-20150424-story.html

If YOU screw up, then you're held accountable. If a company screws up, then they aren't. If software YOU use makes a mistake, then o well, you're still screwed and should've known better, somehow, mysteriously. If software a company uses messes up, then they don't have to worry.

The best part, the company knew and was on notice, and didn't do crap, because that would've required bare minimum effort on their part:

"The manufacturer of the game, Aristocrat Technologies, had previously issued a bulletin that the game might show an erroneous bonus, with a recommendation to casinos to disable the bonus option."

They just don't care. Sure the rules say something, but they don't follow their own rules unless it is to their own advantage. They knew the machine could do that and didn't care. Hell, the courts could've at least had the company pay the $10,000 prize cap, but no....

You or I screw up, and we're screwed. Company wins every time, even when you "do."
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9999 on: April 24, 2015, 11:24:17 pm »

Most humans are easily corruptible. Machines break. What options do we really have?
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« Reply #10000 on: April 24, 2015, 11:50:48 pm »

Most humans are easily corruptible. Machines break. What options do we really have?
Build an AI with the infrastructure and capability to repair itself. What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10001 on: April 24, 2015, 11:56:49 pm »

Or, y'know, we could try and get people to not be such stupid jerks. If you look at history, you'll see a definite trend, even.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10002 on: April 25, 2015, 03:04:07 am »

Capitalism is what's going to spiral into corruption further and further. Humans have always been such.
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« Reply #10003 on: April 25, 2015, 07:58:16 am »

Capitalism is what's going to spiral into corruption further and further. Humans have always been such.
The state must control the bank, or the bank will control the state. Some would argue that the same line of thinking should be applied to corporations.
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