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[Helgoland]

Yup, looks like they'll fire you for anything, and your life isn't worth $400....

The ironic part is that now any robber at a Popeye will know to demand you open the safe when asked: "I know you can open it bitch! I read the stories!" Otherwise it wouldn't be possible to keep the register down to the required $50. Assuming she did in fact have direct access to the safe to fulfill her job requirement of keeping the register empty, she must have lied to the robber, at risk of her own life. How much more was in that safe, going by company policy?

So, in this case you can risk your own life to save the company some money, but it's still not enough. If the robber gets away with one cent, then you're expected to pay back whatever was in the register if it exceeds $50, which you should have clearly put in the safe, yet you're also expected to risk your life lying to armed robbers and not open the actual safe when asked. It really is a case where they don't give a fuck how well you did or what risks you took, you're still a nameless pawn to be exploited.

You know, it's perfectly possible to have a safe-like box with a chute on top. It's not like those people are stupid, and it's not like they want to keep their earnings unsafe.

[scriver]

so full of holes I can pair it with a nice wine.

* scriver makes mental note of quip to use later

[Bauglir]

Every time Steve King says or does anything, it makes me a little more ashamed to live in his district.

[Truean]

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/gm-ford-others-want-working-own-car-illegal-160000229.html

"According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, John Deere argued that “letting people modify car computer systems will result in them pirating music through the on-board entertainment system.”

That’s right— pirating music. Through a tractor."

They don't want you to be legally able to work on your own car, no really. "Only the computerized parts" doesn't limit anything. They'll just make all the parts computerized somehow and then you won't be able to do anything on your own car. Rather, they want to force you to use their dealership techs charging $90 an hour or more.....

I especially love this particular line of BS:
"What GM, and even tractor companies like John Deere, argues is that you, as an owner, don’t actually own your car. Rather, you’re sort of just borrowing it for an extended amount of time and paying for the rights to use the technology. If it sounds ridiculous— it is. But it gets even more ludicrous."

We're all just peasants and we don't own ANYTHING. Car title in your name? Paying for all the repairs and upkeep? Shouldering all the risk of loss? They don't care. They want you to pay for everything and them to make all the decisions. Wow. We really need to do something about this junk, because otherwise they're just gonna take more and more, because you don't even own your own car that you out right purchased...?

[Graknorke]

Would they actually be able to enforce it though? The piracy justification doesn't seem very sound, since you could pirate music with any computer you can install software to.

[TempAcc]

So basically Apple, except with cars. :v

[Truean]

It's all crazy but you'd be surprised what money will let people get away with.

Nobody's united as a population anymore and if you suggest that then they blow you off as either a crook, a crackpot, or a curmudgeon. No unions, no communities, no nothing. Meanwhile, these corporations are enormous and well funded and organized. Gee, I wonder why they're winning.

Nobody wants to fund any sort of fight against these corporations and if you suggest that you get everything from, "we shouldn't HAVE to pay for that. It should just be done," (get real), "You want MONEY for doing that?" (Yes, it'd be a hard job), to "You'd just become as corrupt as them or wouldn't be able to do anything," (love the vote of confidence in spite of track record, but ok...).

Best part, they're going to own everything eventually and you'll own nothing, living off their charaity that you should worship them for being so nice as to give you. They're going to slip it into impossibly long contracts they know nobody will read or be able to, and if you try to read it, they'll refuse to so much as look at you.

They'll put computers in your home and say you can't modify any of that. Then your insurance company will either mandate you have this shit or jack up the price of your policy a ton if you don't. You won't own anything.

You don't own the software on your computer. It's all a license to use now, and it didn't used to be that way. Examples abound, and it's all bullshit, but you'd be surprised what organization and actual money will do. Shame we won't have any of either before long, but corporations will....

[Graknorke]

Did anyone ever say they're not monopolies? I've heard them referred to as such a lot of the time.

[Baffler]

I guess politicians and lawyers just aren't as up for a rousing game of "Bust the Trust" as they used to be. I don't blame them either, it would be a daunting task to say the least.

[UXLZ]

Large civilizations inevitably tend towards ruin. This time, instead of the Romans or French or English, it will be all but a few. It seems we still haven't found the correct path, hopefully this time it will still be possible to recover from.

[Dutchling]

thats so tru man

[UXLZ]

I feel like it will be significantly harder this time around, however.

[Redzephyr01]

WOOPS WRONG THREAD

[SalmonGod]

Hasn't the nature of ownership always been transient, though?  If you have debt or would fall into debt without an income, then you only "own" anything as long as you continue making profit for someone richer than you, exacerbating the circumstances that put you in this position in the first place (wealth consolidation).  As soon as you don't it can all be taken away.  That's not ownership any more than renting is ownership.  The only people who have ever truly owned anything are royalty and the independently wealthy.  This is why I think the concept of property is totally bunk, and all ownership should be based rather on the concept of possession.

Intellectual property is fucking horrendously awful stuff.  Extremely predatory in nature.  But it hasn't really changed the nature of the game.  Just made it more aggressive.

I feel like it will be significantly harder this time around, however.

If we wait too long, it won't be possible.  The stakes have never included environmental destruction on a global scale before, and if we don't beat that boss within the time limit, then civilization will have used up its last extra life.

[UXLZ]

The concept of IP I believe is sound and reasonable, it's just that it is repeatedly abused via such things as Patent Trolls, Apple (thankfully failing) to make the letter 'i' theirs, and Cadbury trademarking a fucking color.

Human nature prefers corruption. The stakes are high, but the ones with the power to beat that boss will fail to do so because it may cost them 1/10000th of their power, and those with the will to try shall not succeed because they lack what is necessary.

At least, that's the pessimistic interpretation. It is quite likely that we are nearing the Despair Event Horizon, however.