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[Dutchling]

Yup, you're in the right thread for that.

[Arcvasti]

so this is the thread where I post uninformed opinions and then get yelled at by other people who either also have uninformed opinions or know so much about the subject they might as well be a policy czar for whatever I posted, yes?

We also do snarky comments~! You'll fit right in~!

[ggamer]

so this is the thread where I post uninformed opinions and then get yelled at by other people who either also have uninformed opinions or know so much about the subject they might as well be a policy czar for whatever I posted, yes?

We also do snarky comments~! You'll fit right in~!

yesssss

* ggamer punches the air

I'm an asshole

[Vector]

That's sad. Now I feel alone on the far left.

You could talk to SalmonGod, he's pretty out there. Vector too, I think, but she rarely talks about general politics.

Honestly, my chief interest is in developing personal ethics. I occasionally pipe in when I think I have something relevant to say or I can see some argument getting out of control, but I'm tired of getting angry on the internet. My general position is that I will diligently develop my empathy and knowledge and then act in line with whatever beliefs result. I don't care for talking points or identities, though I respect that these things can be very important to others--it's just that I see developing my own label as largely irrelevant.

[Darvi]

I have no idea where on the spectrum, if anywhere, I am.

[LordSlowpoke]

you're not

you're darvi

[Owlbread]

That's sad. Now I feel alone on the far left.

You could talk to SalmonGod, he's pretty out there. Vector too, I think, but she rarely talks about general politics.

I am also happy to provide company to Antsan. I can tell him my plans to nationalise all forms of public transport and raise the minimum wage to £10 an hour.

[Helgoland]

That's sad. Now I feel alone on the far left.

You could talk to SalmonGod, he's pretty out there. Vector too, I think, but she rarely talks about general politics.

I am also happy to provide company to Antsan. I can tell him my plans to nationalise all forms of public transport and raise the minimum wage to £10 an hour.

But that's just good Social Democratic policy. By that reasoning I'm a commie because I support a citizen's income.

[Owlbread]

Social Democracy can be pretty far left. It just means you use the Democratic process to achieve these ends. It's not like being a Social Democrat means you're any closer to the centre.

[Helgoland]

Eh, there's plenty of room to the left of the Social Democrats. They're reformists, remember?

[Owlbread]

That's an interesting concept. I'm not saying of course that there's "nothing" to the left of Social Democrats, just that when Social Democracy is put into practice in earnest it often looks so left-wing it's considered Socialist.

Then again, how would we define the various points on the spectrum?

[Sheb]

Easy: anyone to the left of me is a communist, and anyone to my right is a fascist.

[scriver]

Social democracy is socialism, ie definitely left wing.

[Antsan]

As I am roughly an individualist/pacifist/transhumanist anarchist in Germany, social democracy seems more centrist than leftist to me.

@scriver: There's a very huge difference between social democracy and socialism. They are about as much the same as the free market and state capitalism.

[Descan]

The only reason I'm not a communist is because I dislike control.

The only reason I'm not a libertarian is because I dislike leaving people to go hang.

So I call myself a social democrat.