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[TD1]

The other one asked me when black people were going to get over slavery.

Why'd the question floor you?

[smeeprocket]

The other one asked me when black people were going to get over slavery.

Why'd the question floor you?

because at least some of the answers should be obvious. It's not like racism is never discussed. I mean, while I understand that as a white person,I can not fully grasp what a black person experiences day to day, but race has at least partly been talked about.

Things like higher rates of conviction, death penalty, much lower rate of employment for black men, institutionalized poverty...

It just blows my mind that he missed all of that during his entire life.

[UXLZ]

Do you live in Germany, Helgoland?

Ayup, I'm pretty much the resident Hun.

(I really live in Prussian-occupied North-East France, but that's another story )

I am far too removed from European stuff to have any idea what you're talking about there. >_>

I want to visit Germany at some point, my family used to own a brewery chain or something there, before/into WW2. ^^

Apparently the language is a pain in the ass to learn, but from what I know it seems alright. At least I don't have to learn two more alphabets and a symbol system. *Cough* Japanese *Cough*

[smeeprocket]

Is it true that Germans were doing an anti-Muslim march?

Are they going Fourth Reich on us?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Ironically, about half of that is closer to the US reality than the European one, not that I'm much a fan of either system.

Where do you see the problems with the current European system?

(Actually that 'the' should have big fat quotation marks around it. German and British healthcare for example have very very very very very very very very little in common. In fact we tell horror stories about the NHS like the Republicans do about Europe )

"The European System" as a term, is mostly just referencing that Europe has healthcare laws instead of letting the insurance corps run roughshod over the population.

My problems with it can be hair-split all day, but the big ones are that European governments have a tendency to act like the bill they're accumulating will never come asking for payment (thereby leading to Fuck if and when it does) and that the people who try to deal with that exact problem sometimes go about it by doing a less crazy version of not allowing certain treatments (thereby leading to Fuck for people with rare or expensive conditions). Considering all that alongside the euthanasia policies of certain nations....well, Europe makes me nervous from time to time. It wouldn't be too hard to take that step, especially not if the far-right surge continues.

Trying to make borderline racist people not racist is as frustrating as it is exhausting though.

Welcome to the game of persuasion. Nobody ever called it an easy art.

These guys are probably good people at heart, but there's not even a foundation to work with there, you are just building on quicksand.

Hey, you've got plenty of foundation. They aren't going out and hanging black people while mainlining rage fantasies about them, they most likely believe in equal rights at least conceptually, and as you've said they aren't totally vacuous on the idea of morality. That's way more than a bunch of your predecessors got, and you can see how well some of them did. Frankly, Tea Party types are easy mode compared to people who consciously and unashamedly hold ideas like "God created the Lesser Races to serve us" or "if a black man looks at a white woman like that, well, he's just tired of living" (almost actual quote).

[LordSlowpoke]

claiming merkel even has an ideology to speak of is rather far fetched

thanks for the comparison though, we really needed to compare everything german to nazism again

[Helgoland]

A couple of Ossis, nothing big, really. Everybody got pissed at them, and our Chancellorette warned against them in her New Year's adress. The only people trying to cater to them are the ones from our new right-wing party AfD, and if we're lucky, that could be the end for them all.

[Baffler]

Is it true that Germans were doing an anti-Muslim march?

Are they going Fourth Reich on us?

I winced and I'm not even German. Please keep such accusations to r/Polandball. It's true though, the trend in Europe in general seems to be moving in that direction, at least among certain vocal right wing minorities.

Edit: Ninja'd by Helgoland.

[Angle]

Is it true that Germans were doing an anti-Muslim march?

Are they going Fourth Reich on us?

There is a fair amount of anti-muslim sentiment in many european countries, owing mainly to the large amount of immigration right now, but I'd suggest you don't accuse them o going all "Fourth-reich". That's a sensitive subject.

[Sheb]

- Needless provocation -

[smeeprocket]

It was a poorly planned joke. I don't think Americans perceive that like Germans do. We just pretend the bad things we've done never happened, as opposed to dealing with them head on. So jokes about our awfulness tend to be better received. After all, rectal feeding is a perfectly legitimate way to nourish a prisoner.

I should have been more thoughtful.

Honestly, it's France that is upsetting me with their anti-hijab,niqab, and burqa laws. Restricting a woman's dress is the same, even if you are under the impression that you are liberating them.

I read about this opera house where the cast refused to perform until a woman seated in the front row took off her niqab, and she ended up being forced to leave via pressure (no one else would have gotten to see the show).

That's bullshit right there.

Shaming a woman for her dress goes both ways.

[Helgoland]

- Needless provocation -

Indeed, even our women are men!

Hey, where'd the post go?

[smeeprocket]

- Needless provocation -

Indeed, even our women are men!

Hey, where'd the post go?

aww, I wasn't even offended. I deserved it.

(how do germans breed, tho?)

[TD1]

It's not like the French went all anti-women, Smee. It's that they banned covering the face in public space as it hinders effective communication and facial recognition for security reasons.

[UXLZ]

Well, when a mommy's all alone, and the milkman visits when daddy isn't home...

Yeah, how do we breed?