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[Graknorke]

I woulnd't say straw men. It's less about misunderstanding the other's point, and more arguing which point in and out itself is more important or prevalent.

If there were a word for it I would have said something about anti strawmen, for portraying the people you do agree with in an overly positive light.

Wait... wouldn't an anti-strawman portray the people you disagree with in an overly positive light?

Depends how you consider the reversing.
If you take the definition as "a caricature that negatively misrepresents the opposition" and you flip the negatively then you would be right. But you could also take it as "a caricature designed to misrepresent the opposition for one's own purposes" and flip who the caricature is being applied to, and then the way I used it would be technically correct.

[Putnam]

The term is "ironman".

[Graknorke]

The term is "ironman".

That does sound about right.

[smeeprocket]

Nah, most people I know are anarchists, communists and the like. The most conservative I see is soccer fans and leftist Christians.

Uhm. Interesting.

I do agree these dicks exist, and boy do I see them a lot - only recently I actually had the guts to admit I'm bisexual in my local high school, for example. The librarian is a well known homophobe, and the rap sheet goes on for that place.

ITT: Everyone sees only straw men.

I woulnd't say straw men. It's less about misunderstanding the other's point, and more arguing which point in and out itself is more important or prevalent.

I see the issue I described a lot. Doesn't mean the other side doesn't exist.

I don't know what "ITT" stands for, but I guess you are right.

"In this thread."

I feel you. I had to change schools in part because my interest in girls was discovered.

The other side of that is many times, homosexuals will be happy to tell you you don't actually exist. you are just gay and haven't realized it yet. Both sides will tell you you are just greedy or slutty.

I think I'm better described as pansexual, though I use bisexual because a lot of people would require an explanation of what pansexual is.

[Antsan]

Let me put it like this:
I, personally, have never experienced someone who cares about political correctness bashing someone after they apologized and said they didn't know. What I did witness and unfortunately do myself is getting irritated fast when people are politically incorrect beyond a certain point (like engaging in gratuitous slut shaming) which can lead to heated arguments. Still, those arguments certainly don't contain any apology that is not accompanied by some argument why trying to be politically correct is bad and why they should be allowed to talk all the shit they want freely. Expect gratuitous use of arguments about "freedom of speech", often coupled with "it's your own fault for being so libertarian".
I, personally, have often experienced people being told they were politically incorrect go on a rant how they couldn't say anything anymore without being told to shut up - even if what they were saying wasn't intended to be of any importance to the course of anyones life, their own included.

@smeeprocket, Sheo:
I am sorry for you two. Where I am people might talk shit and be insensitive about stuff but in general they leave people's sexuality alone.

[Jervill]

Good news on the LGBT front here.  The Minnesota High School League approved a policy to allow transgender students play in sports.

Also, my state (MN) just announced a one billion dollar budget surplus...again.  All that since we *gasp* raised taxes on the wealthiest earners, how horrifying.

[Sheo]

Good news on the LGBT front here.  The Minnesota High School League approved a policy to allow transgender students play in sports.

Also, my state (MN) just announced a one billion dollar budget surplus...again.  All that since we *gasp* raised taxes on the wealthiest earners, how horrifying.

That's pretty cool.

Curious though, is a MtF transgender allowed, under that policy, to play in official competitions on that gender's category?

I know it's a big subject discussed on the Olympics and other big sports things, due to body mass differences.

[Graknorke]

Also, my state (MN) just announced a one billion dollar budget surplus...again.  All that since we *gasp* raised taxes on the wealthiest earners, how horrifying.

My gods you monsters, how could you take money from those poor, dear, sweet, innocent rich people? All they wanted to do was Scrooge McDuck it up, but instead you filthy commies forced them to replace pools full of money with pools slightly less full of money.
You wretched, soulless devils you 

[Mr. Strange]

Also, my state (MN) just announced a one billion dollar budget surplus...again.  All that since we *gasp* raised taxes on the wealthiest earners, how horrifying.

Wait, is that... Minnesota? Some part in USA is actually taxing their rich? Worlds gone mad I tell you...

[EnigmaticHat]

I'm surprised the rich people there didn't just move to another, nearby state.

[Strife26]

That could explain why North Dakota's millionaire per capita rose more than any other State last year.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101338309

[smeeprocket]

I'm surprised the rich people there didn't just move to another, nearby state.

That actually has been proven in a couple states to just not happen. Someone rich living in a particular state probably works in that state, has connections in that state, etc, and being taxed isn't enough of an issue for most rich people.

Taxing the rich really has nothing but benefits.

[Bauglir]

Yeah, that's largely the thing with businesses - until your tax rate hits 100%, any threats to jump ship are threats to stop making money. What you're actually looking at are threats to incorporate somewhere else so that their income tax rates are lower, but that doesn't save them the money they're charged in the course of simply doing business (property taxes, sales taxes, etc), which are where you need to focus taxation efforts on corporations.

It's not nearly as easy for flesh-and-blood individuals who actually have things to lose like community and convenience. They're a different thing than businesses themselves, though.

[smeeprocket]

yea some businesses will move. I know my state has incredibly low taxes for business and a lot of loopholes, so businesses do come here. They don't generally benefit the state on a level that the average person feels though.

Those kinds of businesses don't generally pay living wages.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Also, my state (MN) just announced a one billion dollar budget surplus...again.  All that since we *gasp* raised taxes on the wealthiest earners, how horrifying.

My gods you monsters, how could you take money from those poor, dear, sweet, innocent rich people? All they wanted to do was Scrooge McDuck it up, but instead you filthy commies forced them to replace pools full of money with pools slightly less full of money.
You wretched, soulless devils you 

I would gleefully take rich people having the ethos of Scrooge McDuck over what we have now. At least McDuck is committed to honorable dealings and the meritocratic recognition of worth. He's a greedy fuck to be sure, but nobody can say he cheated at being a greedy fuck.