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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8505 on: October 01, 2014, 12:31:11 pm »

Ah, yeah, I agree. Not quite what I meant. I mean "open to the public" as in reporters and tv crews and it's all televised and it's a big show, versus "open to the public" as in the records are there and if you're curious you can come in and watch.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that as it becomes more and more of a media spectacle/circus, the chance of anything getting done approaches nil.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8506 on: October 03, 2014, 12:46:41 pm »

Facebook recently deleted the accounts of a bunch of LGBT people and drag queens, supposedly because they weren't using their real name. They have since reversed this, said it was an accident, apologized, and have clarified that the policy means the name you go by, not your legal name.

The coverage of this is making me angry though. It's all focusing in a couple of drag queens with especially ridiculous names, when the drag queens are the least important group affected here. I mean, you should be able to make a Facebook account for your drag persona under your stage name. But your ability to do that is not as important as a trans person trying to use Facebook as their preferred gender that they live as. But your article gets a lot more hits if you make it about Lil Ms. Hot Mess so those kids can just settle for being "and some other people".
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« Reply #8507 on: October 03, 2014, 03:49:30 pm »

I still don't understand why people need to have an "excuse" for not using their real name on a Facebook. Was there really an epidemic (with an actual consequence) of people using names other than their legal? Like, my Facebook name isn't my legal name...

(Yes I am aware of impersonation, but that's... not the same thing...?)
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8508 on: October 03, 2014, 11:22:40 pm »

because facebook makes mad cashdolla selling your data, so it makes giving them wrong data verboten

it's that simple
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8509 on: October 05, 2014, 04:29:15 am »

because facebook makes mad cashdolla selling your data, so it makes giving them wrong data verboten

it's that simple
Yep. Honestly the LGBT slant on this issue takes backseat to the fact that Facebook itself needs to die for its unethical ways.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8510 on: October 05, 2014, 11:08:30 am »

No, that's a separate conversation.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8511 on: October 05, 2014, 09:21:17 pm »

Colorado students walk out to protest conservative ‘censorship’ of AP history

A bit old now, but I've had a hellishly busy last couple weeks.  Haven't been able to keep up with my web reading.

Interestingly, the only civil disobedience I remember learning about in school was the women's suffrage and civil rights movements.  Absolutely nothing about labor.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8512 on: October 05, 2014, 10:52:58 pm »

Wow. "Well, it might be true, but it doesn't send the message I want."
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8513 on: October 06, 2014, 09:00:32 am »

That link has a wealth of cute little RAGE-inducing quotes.

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While the narrative may be “historically true,” he argues, “progressives are going to be the heroes in this narrative.”
“What we have here is a repetition of a theme: There’s another problem, the progressives come to the rescue, and who are the villains?” he said. “Well, American companies are the villains, of course.”

I'm glad they're protesting, I'd join them.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8514 on: October 06, 2014, 09:09:23 am »

And corporations. The republican party at large officially favors two of those three.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8515 on: October 06, 2014, 11:58:58 am »

Funny, I thought they favoured all three...
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8516 on: October 06, 2014, 12:26:06 pm »

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Hahaha, no shit, it's almost like American history is pretty damn negative and consists of a great deal of oppressors and exploiters.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8517 on: October 06, 2014, 05:39:39 pm »

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Creepy wording there. Also... kind of interesting? I can't imagine that trying to force children to like free market systems by getting to them early is at all in line with free market ideals.
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« Reply #8518 on: October 06, 2014, 05:41:55 pm »

"Free Market", in this case, means "Anything that favors Big Business." So it's perfectly in line.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #8519 on: October 06, 2014, 06:00:57 pm »

No, that's a separate conversation.
Two are one and the same, dividing them only serves to force people into arguing for their own reduction into a commodity as a good thing.
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