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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1285759 times)

GlyphGryph

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7560 on: August 22, 2013, 03:21:53 pm »

Sounds a little like Novel Scoops is jumping at shadows and implying nonsensible mega-conspiracies again...
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7561 on: August 22, 2013, 03:23:21 pm »

The thread doesn't quite give the impression that bleeding hearts are completely null and void for transgendered.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7562 on: August 22, 2013, 03:24:44 pm »

What are you actually trying to say. Its so god damn frustrating when you do this and you are doing it more and more often lately.

You are terrible at implying things, insuating things, or otherwise subtly communicating complex ideas. Stop implying context but refusing to actually supply it.

Please, for the love of fuck, just say what you are trying to communicate.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7563 on: August 22, 2013, 03:27:49 pm »

The political left is sympathetic to the plight of the transgendered, and a leaker who is being played up as a sympathetic figure turns out to be transgendered. Whoop dedo conspiracy.
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« Reply #7564 on: August 22, 2013, 03:29:08 pm »

You could easier see it the other way round. I bet making that public at the same time as the leaks occured or even before the trial would have impacted public opinion negatively and hurt her credibility. I'm thinking of "A traitor AND a pervert" type headlines, similar to how Assange is portrayed.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7565 on: August 22, 2013, 03:30:02 pm »

I imagine his sentence would be lower in that case.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7566 on: August 22, 2013, 03:31:01 pm »

Okay, you have stated some facts. And then... again, contextless, meaningless statements.

Do you think it's a conspiracy? By whom? To do what? Why are you hesitant simply because it's obvious? (It's not obvious to me)

Why would her sentence be lower? Especially since it WAS brought up during the actual trial? Being transgendered is not something that makes you more popular in the US, so why would it being public have done anything to shorten the sentence length?
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« Reply #7567 on: August 22, 2013, 03:36:42 pm »

I'm sure she did, SalmonGod. :/

His response sums up how the media, even those supposedly supportive of her, have been treating Manning, isn't it?

It was pretty clear she was trans for a long time now even though her team was keeping it quiet.

P.S. Fuck everybody suggesting this was some kind of conspiracy on the media's part.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7568 on: August 22, 2013, 03:37:38 pm »

I edited out the "hesitant because it's obvious" bit within ten seconds, but my luck :). "Whoop dedo conspiracy" was sarcasm, because cultivating a sympathetic response in the political side that care the most about the leaks couldn't possibly be convenient. I thought the sentence would be lower because the degree of leftwing backlash against popular disdain for Manning based purely on being transgendered might in fact rally more support in more countries, with more coverage of that support then i heard off actually occurring. An unduly harsh sentence would also have caused more uproar.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7569 on: August 22, 2013, 03:40:46 pm »

What are you actually trying to say. Its so god damn frustrating when you do this and you are doing it more and more often lately.

You are terrible at implying things, insuating things, or otherwise subtly communicating complex ideas. Stop implying context but refusing to actually supply it.

Please, for the love of fuck, just say what you are trying to communicate.

Novel's nebulous diction is renowned for bursting the heads of those who try to fathom it.

I would recommend reading the essay "Politics and the English Language" by George Orwell, Novel. He will cure you of some of your ailments and if you try to copy his general writing style it can only do you good.

I wonder if Manning coming out like this will help spur on the next big civil rights movement, which will undoubtedly be based around transgendered rights. They're like the next big frontier.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7570 on: August 22, 2013, 03:49:40 pm »

What are you actually trying to say. Its so god damn frustrating when you do this and you are doing it more and more often lately.

You are terrible at implying things, insuating things, or otherwise subtly communicating complex ideas. Stop implying context but refusing to actually supply it.

Please, for the love of fuck, just say what you are trying to communicate.

Novel's nebulous diction is renowned for bursting the heads of those who try to fathom it.

I would recommend reading the essay "Politics and the English Language" by George Orwell, Novel. He will cure you of some of your ailments and if you try to copy his general writing style it can only do you good.

I wonder if Manning coming out like this will help spur on the next big civil rights movement, which will undoubtedly be based around transgendered rights. They're like the next big frontier.

I'm reading it. I rely on each of my posts being taken in context of both the prior ones and the one I'm responding too, but conversational habits don't transfer well to the internet.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7571 on: August 22, 2013, 03:51:57 pm »

Novel, if everyone and their grandmother thinks you're hard to comprehend...
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« Reply #7572 on: August 22, 2013, 03:53:34 pm »

Novel, if everyone and their grandmother thinks you're hard to comprehend...

Exactly what i fucking said :D
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7573 on: August 22, 2013, 03:54:28 pm »

Novel, if everyone and their grandmother thinks you're hard to comprehend...

Exactly what i fucking said :D
...What.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7574 on: August 22, 2013, 03:55:16 pm »

Damn it we had a rhyme scheme.
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