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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7500 on: August 16, 2013, 03:25:46 pm »

been playing Rugby for almost 20 years, man and boy. One smashed wrist, one dislocated jaw, one dislocated knee. Nobody counts broken or disloctaed fingers as they happen to someone each and every game. I have gotten off quite lightly.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7501 on: August 16, 2013, 04:02:13 pm »

It would be pretty wonderful if someone who loaded the fireworks at the Olympics did it a rainbow formation....

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7503 on: August 17, 2013, 03:47:12 pm »

It sounds like a good idea at first, until you realize it's just a "Your domestic violence is interrupting my quiet reading time, go away." type of law instead of one that actually helps solve the issue.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7504 on: August 17, 2013, 04:47:21 pm »

It's if an emergency call is made and gets services sent to your house 4 times.
Which is pretty silly. You can't call someone disruptive because someone broke into their house or tried to burn it down or some other crime.
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« Reply #7506 on: August 18, 2013, 12:49:23 pm »

For some reason, British governments and trains just don't mix anymore. We can't do them right, haven't been able to for about a century or so. If you think the rail link is bad by the way you should see the Edinburgh tram fiasco.

Of course we could pay for this railway link quite easily if we just scrapped trident.
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« Reply #7507 on: August 18, 2013, 01:36:55 pm »

I am all for big infrastructure projects as a means to create jobs and generate income for the nation - the trouble is there is no real projected need for the HS2 link thatI can find that does a good job of justifying the immense sums anticipated to build it (which is predicted to shorten the travel time from the N.West to London by about 50% - worth £80bn??), and like most projects that will be administered under the Tories it will serve to generate income for the rich companies who land the contracts, not the workers who do the building or the nation as a whole through some kind of secondary wealth generation compared to the sums involved in the construction.

People have suggested several cheaper or cost equivalent alternatives with greater potential benefits, such as an east coast motorway, a bridge to the Isle of Wight, an expansion to Heathrow (or new S.East airport), removing the rail bottleneck in the N.East, a second channel crossing (possibly a road bridge-tunnel similar to the one in Tokyo, or some kind of integrated tram system in one or more major city.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7508 on: August 18, 2013, 02:20:51 pm »

To be fair, the current railway connections are almost at capacity. Though there have been other, much smaller, projects suggested. A nice spread out refit of infrastructure all around the UK could have a much larger effect, across the entire the continent.

Of course we could pay for this railway link quite easily if we just scrapped trident.
Total Trident cost is a mere 10 billion pounds. (about 40% paid by the US).

Of course, there's a significant maintenance cost, but that would barely pay for the program, even if you take the expenditures for 30 years. Especially dismantelement of bases and weaponry could be costly.
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« Reply #7509 on: August 18, 2013, 02:31:06 pm »

The railways are at capacity in buil up areas at peak times. At other times away from cities, the trains are nigh on empty. Due to there being so many smaller train companies working in different regions, or competing against one another and often operating under subsidy, there is little to no probability of empty trains being used more sensibly to bolster areas bursting at the seams.

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« Reply #7510 on: August 18, 2013, 03:09:17 pm »

Total Trident cost is a mere 10 billion pounds. (about 40% paid by the US).

Of course, there's a significant maintenance cost, but that would barely pay for the program, even if you take the expenditures for 30 years. Especially dismantelement of bases and weaponry could be costly.

I'm not talking about acquisition costs. Maintenance costs are now around 2 billion pounds per year, having risen in the last decade from 1 billion. We are currently replacing said nuclear defence system for roughly 25 billion pounds. According to the think tank known as BASIC (British American Security Information Council) scrapping trident would save the British government 83 billion pounds over the next 50 years, whereas Greenpeace claim that the replacement costs are going to be closer to 34 billion pounds, while the upkeep costs for the system over its 30 year lifespan will be roughly 130 billion pounds altogether.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #7512 on: August 18, 2013, 05:07:25 pm »

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« Reply #7513 on: August 18, 2013, 05:07:40 pm »

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