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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1287437 times)

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5940 on: May 30, 2013, 05:08:29 am »

Well, this is so vague we really can't see anything. At minimum, it would entail expanding the work of social helpers to all family, which doesn't strike me as really bad. Of course, the UK do have a tendency to take the kids away fast it seems, so it could be a problem.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5941 on: May 30, 2013, 06:08:09 am »

Something that could work better, though, if perhaps still a bit of a dream, is to give every child a "social contact" (for lackof better word). Now, these wouldn't be fullblown social workers/agents, but rather serve as a personal face and "middle-man", somebody the kids has interacted with and at least knows a little and hopefully trusts - it would be easier for kids to approach these people than strangers and it would lift some responsibility of the teachers shoulders as these practically has to serve this function already without getting any pay or gratitude for it (but plenty of blame when things go wrong). The "contact" could then approach the correct social agency or police if necessary. And it wouldn't just be about keeping check on children's family life, but about bullying, ostracisation, or abuse from teachers or other non-family authority figures in the kid's life.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5942 on: May 30, 2013, 06:15:54 am »

Isn't that what the Scots are planning?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5943 on: May 30, 2013, 06:46:43 am »

Dunno. Who ever knows what the Scots are planning?
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« Reply #5944 on: May 30, 2013, 10:25:14 am »

Dunno. Who ever knows what the Scots are planning?

Not even us.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5945 on: May 30, 2013, 11:35:34 am »

Nobody expects the Scottish Inquisition.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5946 on: May 30, 2013, 12:29:48 pm »

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« Reply #5947 on: May 30, 2013, 02:12:40 pm »

It'd be easier and more practical to just require such certification for parents.

I think that's not as easy as it sounds. I wish there would be a nice way to do this. Having a kid sure requires more responsibility than driving a car and we require people to have a license for those. But how can you keep those without a parent-license from making a baby?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5948 on: May 31, 2013, 04:52:20 am »

That's easy. At puberty, collect and freeze sperm from every male, then perform a forced vasectomy. they can now only have kids by using their state-controlled sperm supply.


Now, the real question is how can we do it without going into a dystopia.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5949 on: May 31, 2013, 04:59:14 am »

...You call being able to have consequence-freer sex a dystopia? :P
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5950 on: May 31, 2013, 05:03:30 am »

That's easy. At puberty, collect and freeze sperm from every male, then perform a forced vasectomy. they can now only have kids by using their state-controlled sperm supply.
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So when do you start taking applicants?

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5951 on: May 31, 2013, 05:07:12 am »

Yeah, I know lots of people at my college who would see that as less of a forced vasectomy than a free vasectomy.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5952 on: May 31, 2013, 05:21:37 am »

Not only that, they keep your sperm sample on ice so you can still have kids one day! Fucking win-win!

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5953 on: May 31, 2013, 07:08:58 am »

Am I alone in being unenthusiastic about neutering myself?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5954 on: May 31, 2013, 07:15:31 am »

... you wouldn't be losing reproductive capability, just establishing more or less total control over it. Assuming implementation was properly done, anyway. What's to be unenthusiastic about? Sounds like an improvement from the normal state of things, t'me.
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