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10ebbor10

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5730 on: April 27, 2013, 12:27:46 am »

The pollution over a lifetime of a gasoline-run car would be much more than the production of an electric one.
Maybe... (rare earths really are quite polluting).

However, would the pollution over a lifetime* of a gasoline-run car be lower than the pollution over the lifetime* of an electric car if it's energy is generated by fossil fuels. (In this example, coal)

*Including production
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5731 on: April 27, 2013, 02:24:59 am »

Yes, since the fossil fuels will have been used and will pollute regardless of the cars that run on them.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5732 on: April 27, 2013, 02:45:54 am »

Domestic abuse victims face retaliation from police for seeking help.

TLDR;  Police fine landlords or make them evict victims who call the police under public nuisance ordinances, so victims gets to choose between homelessness or abuse.

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Norristown reports that domestic violence victims make up 20 percent of its homeless population.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5733 on: April 27, 2013, 03:04:33 am »

Horrible. The whole system is just wrong, but to include domestic violence on such a list... I can't even begin to fathom what they were thinking.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5734 on: April 27, 2013, 03:47:00 am »

Who would vote for an ordinance that penalizes you for getting the police to do their jobs? Jegus.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5735 on: April 27, 2013, 06:47:44 am »

their is probably a decent reason for this law, Say their is a house where the tenants regularly hassle the neighbors this gives the police the ability to remove them. However in this case it is abysmal how its been handled
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5736 on: April 27, 2013, 07:22:07 am »

I am super sceptical about wikileaks in general.
They're clearly right in this case though

However, would the pollution over a lifetime* of a gasoline-run car be lower than the pollution over the lifetime* of an electric car if it's energy is generated by fossil fuels. (In this example, coal)

*Including production
Two problems: firstly, burning coal does produce a lot less CO2 than gasoline for the same amount of energy (gasoline is the least efficient way to do it).  Secondly, not all electricity is produced from burning coal.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5737 on: April 27, 2013, 07:35:02 am »

Horrible. The whole system is just wrong, but to include domestic violence on such a list... I can't even begin to fathom what they were thinking.
They were probably thinking 'Hurrrrr'

This made me laugh more than it should have.  Just wasn't expecting it :P
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5738 on: April 27, 2013, 08:46:01 am »

This is pretty terrible. Especially since my and my mom would be affected by it, if we lived there/it was a law here.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5739 on: April 29, 2013, 11:08:26 pm »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22348158
Hunger strike at Gitmo still ongoing and getting bigger.

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/futureoftech/activists-un-put-killer-robots-crosshairs-6C9633925
And discussion is sorta beginning about fully autonomous killbots. As for this one, I'm kinda on the fence. For everything that can go wrong, there's also a great opportunity in that they may reduce accidents or incidents caused by human operators. Autonomous software would require much more thorough vetting and failsafes, and as a consequence may actually end up better.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5741 on: May 05, 2013, 03:31:08 pm »

http://www.satanicverses.org/

Obviously my God-breath detector was miscalibrated.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5742 on: May 05, 2013, 03:43:51 pm »

http://www.satanicverses.org/

Obviously my God-breath detector was miscalibrated.
Meh, that's just the background information. As is the entire Old testament.
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« Reply #5743 on: May 05, 2013, 05:03:23 pm »

Meh, that's just the background information. As is the entire Old testament.

Where exactly is the old testament defined at any time in the bible or similar as "background info"?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5744 on: May 05, 2013, 05:14:06 pm »

http://www.satanicverses.org/

Obviously my God-breath detector was miscalibrated.
Meh, that's just the background information. As is the entire Old testament.
Also, that's a naïve interpretation of 'lie/lay': in old texts that's a synonym for 'have sex with.' >_>
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