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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1286974 times)

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5340 on: March 29, 2013, 01:43:50 pm »

They terk er jerbs!
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« Reply #5341 on: March 29, 2013, 01:56:51 pm »

All the jobs that white people don't want, funnily enough
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5342 on: March 29, 2013, 02:08:55 pm »

I live in canada and where i am the majority of the immagrants come from eastern europe

Edit: my fathers side is right from poland. So dont think that im complaining. Im not. Just stating a point
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« Reply #5343 on: March 29, 2013, 02:13:30 pm »

I live in canada and where i am the majority of the immagrants come from eastern europe

Edit: my fathers side is right from poland. So dont think that im complaining. Im not. Just stating a point

The UK is the same. Soon we will have many Romanian and Bulgarian immigrants, although I'm not complaining. I've always wanted to learn Bulgarian.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5344 on: March 29, 2013, 02:17:36 pm »

I live in canada and where i am the majority of the immagrants come from eastern europe

Edit: my fathers side is right from poland. So dont think that im complaining. Im not. Just stating a point

The UK is the same. Soon we will have many Romanian and Bulgarian immigrants, although I'm not complaining. I've always wanted to learn Bulgarian.
Speaking of the UK my grandma who has been living here for 50 years never got her Canadian citezenship. She has her British citezenship still. Shes what they call a "permanant immagrant" so she can do everything except vote.
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« Reply #5345 on: March 29, 2013, 05:13:22 pm »

Speaking of the UK my grandma who has been living here for 50 years never got her Canadian citezenship. She has her British citezenship still. Shes what they call a "permanant immagrant" so she can do everything except vote.

Where in the UK was she from?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5346 on: March 29, 2013, 05:24:25 pm »

Where in the UK was she from?
Nottingham.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5347 on: March 30, 2013, 07:51:03 am »

Dying US veteran writes open letter to Bush. Now all we need to do is teach Bush to read.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5349 on: March 30, 2013, 08:46:48 am »

The lesson:  stop fucking participating in the bullshit.  You join the military, you are signing up to be used as a pawn for the personal agendas of the rich and powerful.  We have thousands of years of history to prove that's what happens to soldiers.  Stop granting them your willing participation.  If you think you're serving a noble cause, the suicide rate of those who have done so before you under the same pretenses should tell you that it's not.  People don't kill themselves because they're proud of what they've done, and this guilt is not unique to the Iraq War.

I know plenty here will disagree, but that's my honest belief.  I do not understand what people are thinking when they offer themselves up to become the next Tomas Young.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5350 on: March 30, 2013, 08:55:57 am »

Oh, I have little sympathy with the individual soldiers who end up shot/blown up etc. as the risk of such happening to you in any conflict are clear, and you sign up knowing the risks (though I do feel very sorry for the families that suffer loss). The letter is just one of many examples that people were/are pissed off that the Iraq war was carried out, using peoples fears following 9/11 to hide the truth. Whilst the invasion of Afghanistan was justifiable from both a security and humanitarian standpoint (YMMV here), IMHO the Iraq was was perpretrated on a lie formulated by the acitons Bush and followed up on by others, Blair included. I honestly beleive that people would have left Iraq well alone if there had been no invasion of Afgahnistan.

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« Reply #5351 on: March 30, 2013, 09:05:35 am »

I'm not even talking about the physical risks.  I'm talking about the spiritual risks.  Even if you walk away from the experience physically intact, the chances that you're going to do so with pride in your actions are minimal.  Most likely you're going to be made to do things that will haunt you forever only for the sake of someone's greed.  Our heads are filled with patriotic bullshit as children, but the suicide rates of veterans should be an overriding deterrent to anyone.  This isn't just about the Iraq War.  This has been the nature of military and its use by political powers forever.
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« Reply #5352 on: March 30, 2013, 10:12:32 am »

As much as I think it's horrible that young men would be injured or crippled by bombs or IEDs, and as much as I admire their efforts to rebuild their lives, when I see British charities like "Help for Heroes" I start to get a bit... well, annoyed. Why is it that I can join the army, step on a mine on my first day and get called a hero, yet when someone cares for their spouse all the way through the gruelling disease that is alzheimers they don't get so much as a mention in a newspaper beyond an obituary when they die?

When your leg gets blown off, that's a terrible tragedy. You didn't save the world. Your life is just going to be much harder from now on.
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« Reply #5353 on: March 30, 2013, 10:26:27 am »

As much as I think it's horrible that young men would be injured or crippled by bombs or IEDs, and as much as I admire their efforts to rebuild their lives, when I see British charities like "Help for Heroes" I start to get a bit... well, annoyed. Why is it that I can join the army, step on a mine on my first day and get called a hero, yet when someone cares for their spouse all the way through the gruelling disease that is alzheimers they don't get so much as a mention in a newspaper beyond an obituary when they die?

When your leg gets blown off, that's a terrible tragedy. You didn't save the world. Your life is just going to be much harder from now on.

Agreed.  A guy I was pretty close to in school got himself killed in Afghanistan and everybody has been calling him a hero since.  He wasn't, he was just a nice dude who couldn't see  any other way to make a living.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5354 on: March 30, 2013, 10:29:56 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/kansas-couple-indoor-gardening-prompted-pot-raid-182449463.html

The government is conducting drug raids with NO probable cause. In this instance they went after a couple who were retired from the CIA and were using indoor gardening supplies to start an early vegetable garden.
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