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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1274629 times)

Sirus

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5220 on: March 25, 2013, 09:14:38 pm »

Metroid series?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5221 on: March 25, 2013, 09:16:48 pm »

That is an exception, mostly due to people getting suckered in with the first game without realizing "OMG SAMUS IS A GIRL".
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5222 on: March 25, 2013, 09:22:11 pm »

Metroid series?
I think part of the point was having female protagonists that aren't just eye candy, but rather real people who can have their own relationships.
Samus being a girl wasn't meant to be 'Oh yea, and Samus is a girl, guess that fucked up your perception of this bad ass space marine. How sexist of you!', but rather 'Ok you beat our game, enjoy some fan service of a girl in a skimpy outfit' and has just followed since then. She hasn't truly evolved as a female in any meaningful way, with the exception of the end of Metroid II, an ending that some people think of as a sign of feminine weakness beause instead of doing the 'manly' thing and blasting the critter away, she actually showed some fucking emotion.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5223 on: March 25, 2013, 09:24:34 pm »

That emotion was fine until Other M turned it into... that.

That game literally her thanking a man for shooting her in the back because she's apparently too rash to make decisions on her own.

This takes place after Super Metroid.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5224 on: March 25, 2013, 09:24:46 pm »

Metroid series?
I think part of the point was having female protagonists that aren't just eye candy, but rather real people who can have their own relationships.
Samus being a girl wasn't meant to be 'Oh yea, and Samus is a girl, guess that fucked up your perception of this bad ass space marine. How sexist of you!', but rather 'Ok you beat our game, enjoy some fan service of a girl in a skimpy outfit' and has just followed since then. She hasn't truly evolved as a female in any meaningful way, with the exception of the end of Metroid II, an ending that some people think of as a sign of feminine weakness beause instead of doing the 'manly' thing and blasting the critter away, she actually showed some fucking emotion.
But then you get to Super Metroid, the end of which left more than one macho-manly gamer crying a river. Funny how that works, eh?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5225 on: March 25, 2013, 09:28:21 pm »

But then you get to Super Metroid, the end of which left more than one macho-manly gamer crying a river. Funny how that works, eh?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5226 on: March 25, 2013, 09:30:07 pm »

I was referring to the "feminine weakness" thing, but touche :P
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5227 on: March 26, 2013, 02:14:27 am »

Speaking of boobies...
Wow. What the hell, publishers.

Romance novels tend to have female protagonists. Gee, I wonder why.
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« Reply #5228 on: March 26, 2013, 02:22:27 am »

True, but if you go to a book publisher and say you are writing a romance novel with a male protagonist, they would tell you to come back when it is done so they can at least see if they can generate some interest from it.
Apparently publishers won't work with female protagonists in video games out of hand.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5229 on: March 26, 2013, 02:39:54 am »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5230 on: March 26, 2013, 02:41:59 am »

I was waiting for someone to make the joke.
Classic.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5231 on: March 26, 2013, 02:42:52 am »

I was waiting for someone to make the joke.
Classic.
I'm happy to oblige.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5232 on: March 26, 2013, 02:51:59 am »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5233 on: March 26, 2013, 08:52:35 am »

True, but if you go to a book publisher and say you are writing a romance novel with a male protagonist, they would tell you to come back when it is done so they can at least see if they can generate some interest from it.
If you go to a book publisher and say you are writing any kind of book they will tell you to come back when you've finished.  The business model is completely different.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5234 on: March 26, 2013, 12:33:16 pm »

Romance novels tend to have female protagonists. Gee, I wonder why.

Romance novels are not comparable to video games as a whole. Romance novels are a small, incredibly homogeneous genre with a very specific audience. Video games are not.
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