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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1245293 times)

MetalSlimeHunt

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4035 on: November 15, 2012, 07:55:59 pm »

These days the Catholic Church has taken the "burn it down" approach to approaching social change. If they can't enforce their code, they won't help anyone.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4036 on: November 15, 2012, 07:59:48 pm »

I wonder when they will start using the "excommunicate all the states with gay marriage" approach?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4037 on: November 15, 2012, 08:02:07 pm »

If they continue that approach, the Catholic Church will be relegated to the dust bin of history where it belongs.  It will be interesting to see if the numbers decline here from the last time a religion poll Demographics for Minnesota was taken.  28% Roman Catholic in 2010.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4038 on: November 15, 2012, 08:04:08 pm »

I wonder when they will start using the "excommunicate all the states with gay marriage" approach?
That stopped being effective around 1500. These days all they'd accomplish would be making another denomination that acts exactly like them.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4040 on: November 16, 2012, 04:14:40 pm »

To be fair, physical appearance obviously matters for someone that's going to be on the air talking all the time.

I'll absolutely agree that Fox's hiring of what are essentially the same thing as booth babes is pretty disgusting, but I won't go so far as to say sex appeal doesn't matter. Yes, it's news, not T&A, but let's look at this practically too; they want someone who's going to catch an eye while flipping through channels. 
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4041 on: November 16, 2012, 04:16:34 pm »

If it matters for women but not for men then it is sexist.  Fox's male hosts are ugly and old.

Although if they decide to start hiring male underwear models I will support the practice if only because it means Glenn Beck will lose his spot.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2012, 04:20:25 pm by Leafsnail »
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4042 on: November 16, 2012, 04:18:13 pm »

I agree that there's truth to the need for reasonably attractive hosts, but for someone to openly claim that the female hosts on their own channel are nothing but underwear models seems a bit excessively sexist.

I mean, it wasn't from someone criticizing the hiring practices, it was said as if it was a point of pride.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2012, 04:22:00 pm by Reelya »
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4043 on: November 16, 2012, 04:21:53 pm »

Indeed and agreed.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4044 on: November 16, 2012, 04:24:55 pm »

Well the actual comment was probably a joke but it's clear they are sexist in their hiring practices.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4045 on: November 16, 2012, 08:28:11 pm »

Yeah, but joking about something you're organization is actually doing wrong is normally seen as in bad taste.

In other news:

They told him not to enforce drug laws in white areas. Really.

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4046 on: November 16, 2012, 08:41:20 pm »

Yeah, but joking about something you're organization is actually doing wrong is normally seen as in bad taste.

In other news:

They told him not to enforce drug laws in white areas. Really.


What I'm getting from this that the issue wasn't directly race, it was more of a case of social status. Still ridiculous though.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4047 on: November 16, 2012, 09:13:22 pm »

Yeah, but joking about something you're organization is actually doing wrong is normally seen as in bad taste.

In other news:

They told him not to enforce drug laws in white areas. Really.


What I'm getting from this that the issue wasn't directly race, it was more of a case of social status. Still ridiculous though.

That's not really what he was saying. He was saying that they were directly instructed to not bother enforcing in suburban/rural areas because the families there knew lawyers, judges, politicians, and so forth. Even if he hadn't outright stated it, it isn't particularly difficult to read between the lines. Nor does it greatly surprise me. Though the core issue, perhaps as much as the racism, is the sheer apathy behind that attitude of only enforcing laws for people who can't effectively fight back.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4048 on: November 16, 2012, 11:49:16 pm »

So... did Anonymous prevent Karl Rove from doing a man-in-the-middle attack in Ohio?
http://wonkette.com/489966/anonymous-claims-it-stopped-karl-rove-from-hacking-the-election-by-hacking-orca-we-think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=REn1BnJE3do
Would explain Rove's reaction election night...  and the similarities to 2004 are uncanny...
on the other hand, it could just be BS.... go go conspiracy theory or just plain random posturing?
In any case... there are many words....
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4049 on: November 16, 2012, 11:59:51 pm »

So... did Anonymous prevent Karl Rove from doing a man-in-the-middle attack in Ohio?
http://wonkette.com/489966/anonymous-claims-it-stopped-karl-rove-from-hacking-the-election-by-hacking-orca-we-think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=REn1BnJE3do
Would explain Rove's reaction election night...  and the similarities to 2004 are uncanny...
on the other hand, it could just be BS.... go go conspiracy theory or just plain random posturing?
In any case... there are many words....

I really wish I could dismiss it as a conspiracy theory or posturing on the part of anon, but... Yeah, it's Rove, and I really don't think it was a coincidental event.
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