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[Gantolandon]

So assume I create my own court system, military, and police, and a certain number of people join it. Is the government going to sit idly by, or perhaps improve its conditions to increase competitiveness?

Nothing prevents you from creating your own courts, military and police outside the national borders (except maybe available land), using your own resources. You can also move to another country, provided it wants you there. It's the same advice that libertarians give when someone is unhappy about his job.

The thing you are proposing is basically: "OK, guys, I no longer work here, Bob and Tim also resign and we are going to compete with you. We will take this set of cubicles and all the equipment inside, we can share electricity cost, but you are still expected to shelf money when the building needs repairs, why is the security here, WHERE ARE YOU TAKING ME YOU HATE FREE MARKET HELP MAFIA IS STOMPING ON MY RIGHTS!!!".

Society can't "give" me rights. Rights stem from basic principles (eg. self-ownership), not government decrees.

These "basic principles" comes from the other people's around you (the society) understanding what is right. So yes, the society grants you rights.

[GreatJustice]

Nothing prevents you from creating your own courts, military and police outside the national borders (except maybe available land), using your own resources. You can also move to another country, provided it wants you there. It's the same advice that libertarians give when someone is unhappy about his job.

Outside national borders? Where? There is no place in the world not claimed by a state of some kind or else protected by international treaties. Even in Somalia, which was nominally anarchist for a while, the UN has been rabidly attempting to impose a state for the past 20 years. Also, again, you often get taxed if you leave a country with your assets, so this isn't a solution.

The thing you are proposing is basically: "OK, guys, I no longer work here, Bob and Tim also resign and we are going to compete with you. We will take this set of cubicles and all the equipment inside, we can share electricity cost, but you are still expected to shelf money when the building needs repairs, why is the security here, WHERE ARE YOU TAKING ME YOU HATE FREE MARKET HELP MAFIA IS STOMPING ON MY RIGHTS!!!".

The business, however, actually originally created those things at its own cost and while competing with other businesses. Anything the government creates was created by taking money from others involuntarily and monopolizing it to ensure no one else interrupts them.

More accurate would be the competitors making their own business, beginning to do well, whereupon the rival sends over a squad of goons and throws them into a closet for a month for trying to compete with them.

[Reelya]

Wow, you have an example of propping up a government monopoly from 1851. Got anything more relevant to the world we live in today?

A big part of "Letter Mail Co"'s success was that it only offered services in the most lucrative of markets - a few large cities on the East Coast, whereas US Post is obliged to offer delivery for the same stamp price throughout the country. Letter Mail Co driving US Post out of business in those big cities would drive prices up everywhere else. See how they'd go if they were forced to build and staff their own post offices in every village, town and city across the country.

And of course, any profit by a publicly owned company replaces taxes. A drop in revenue could lead to taxes rising, a hidden cost in privatizing a service. Look at Singapore, 14% tax, 60% Government ownership. They could privatize everything, but taxes would have to rise to compensate.

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People being educated pays dividends for more than just the person with kids. Business's take for granted that they'll have literate 18 year olds to hire for minimum wage.

If you think literacy is bad in the United States, one of the countries with the highest literacy in the world, due in no small part to public education, think about living in a country with poor public school access, where literacy is 49% rather than 99%

Everyone benefits from education, even if you're not the direct person being educated.

[Leafsnail]

Wow, you have an example of propping up a government monopoly from 1851. Got anything more relevant to the world we live in today?

Rule number 1 of libertarianism: do not talk about anything which happened in the last 100 years.

[Reelya]

In 1851 it was the Gold Rush and the Wild West too. Also, you claim American's don't keep slaves?? This publication from 1851 proves otherwise.

[EveryZig]

The government is not necessary for the existence of basic charity and human kindness.

How in the world do you get to the conclusion that human kindness is at all reliable on a societal societal level?

[lemon10]

Outside national borders? Where? There is no place in the world not claimed by a state of some kind or else protected by international treaties. Even in Somalia, which was nominally anarchist for a while, the UN has been rabidly attempting to impose a state for the past 20 years. Also, again, you often get taxed if you leave a country with your assets, so this isn't a solution.

Are you actually of the opinion that Somalia is better off without a government and the UN trying to make a government there is a bad thing?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Somalia wasn't even anarchist. It wasn't even anarchist in name. It was a bunch of Islamist warlords fighting with a bunch of tiny democratic factions backed by the UN, who also held an independent presence in the nation.

And even then sometimes they'd fight other people inside their own ideological group for one reason or another.

[Kilroy the Grand]

People actually believe that governments are unnecessary? where ever there is a power vacuum, it will be filled. Take OWS for example, while all the poor people protested, stood in the cold, and talked about taking down the man, the rich yuppies had meetings in the bank across the street making "plans". They even had segregated themselves from the poor.

The funny thing is, if a revolution did happen, if there were riots in the streets. Those yuppies would probably be get a face full of brick, long before any wall street executives .

[kaijyuu]

The funny thing is, if a revolution did happen, if there were riots in the streets. Those yuppies would probably be get a face full of brick, long before any wall street executives .

Proportionally, a bloody revolution would harm the upper classes more than the lower (going by the Reign of Terror as historical precedent, anyway). 'Course, that's proportionally; there'd be far more corpses from those in the lower classes. Most would survive without a knife in their gut though, while the upper classes would be mostly decapitated.

[Kilroy the Grand]

The funny thing is, if a revolution did happen, if there were riots in the streets. Those yuppies would probably be get a face full of brick, long before any wall street executives .

Proportionally, a bloody revolution would harm the upper classes more than the lower (going by the Reign of Terror as historical precedent, anyway). 'Course, that's proportionally; there'd be far more corpses from those in the lower classes. Most would survive without a knife in their gut though, while the upper classes would be mostly decapitated.

Think of it, a world were I don't have to listen to twits yammering on about steve jobs, with their stupid thick rimmed glasses and ironic t-shirts. A world were dubstep isn't blared from cars at an excess of 100dBs.

[Glowcat]

The funny thing is, if a revolution did happen, if there were riots in the streets. Those yuppies would probably be get a face full of brick, long before any wall street executives .

Proportionally, a bloody revolution would harm the upper classes more than the lower (going by the Reign of Terror as historical precedent, anyway). 'Course, that's proportionally; there'd be far more corpses from those in the lower classes. Most would survive without a knife in their gut though, while the upper classes would be mostly decapitated.

I'm not really sure that it'd play out the same nowadays when they've got their own jet planes to run over to the nearest safe country. Maybe those who aren't quick enough will be dragged through the street but the rest will be evacuating asap until it all blows over.

[Gantolandon]

AFA protests an anti-bullying program because...

“Anti-bullying legislation is exactly the same,” Mr. Fischer said. “It’s just another thinly veiled attempt to promote the homosexual agenda. No one is in favor of anyone getting bullied for any reason, but these anti-bullying policies become a mechanism for punishing Christian students who believe that homosexual behavior is not something that should be normalized.”

[ChairmanPoo]

The funny thing is, if a revolution did happen, if there were riots in the streets. Those yuppies would probably be get a face full of brick, long before any wall street executives .

Proportionally, a bloody revolution would harm the upper classes more than the lower (going by the Reign of Terror as historical precedent, anyway). 'Course, that's proportionally; there'd be far more corpses from those in the lower classes. Most would survive without a knife in their gut though, while the upper classes would be mostly decapitated.

I'm not really sure that it'd play out the same nowadays when they've got their own jet planes to run over to the nearest safe country. Maybe those who aren't quick enough will be dragged through the street but the rest will be evacuating asap until it all blows over.

The way things are going the nearest safe country will be North Korea

[lordcooper]

AFA protests an anti-bullying program because...

“Anti-bullying legislation is exactly the same,” Mr. Fischer said. “It’s just another thinly veiled attempt to promote the homosexual agenda. No one is in favor of anyone getting bullied for any reason, but these anti-bullying policies become a mechanism for punishing Christian students who believe that homosexual behavior is not something that should be normalized.”

WWJD?