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[Pnx]

Maybe they're just trying to get themselves treated as people?

[GreatJustice]

Of course, if they (that is, Occupy Wall Street Incorporated) succeed they won't have the freedom of speech to Occupy Wall Street.

[Leafsnail]

Libertarians tend to be pretty fundamentally opposed to the kind of economic reform Occupy is going for.  It's not surprising you'd want them out of your movement.

[Euld]

I really need to take my email of these people's list sometime:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Dear Friend,

You've probably seen the name of a popular fast-food restaurant, Chick-fil-A, in the news quite a bit recently—but unfortunately, it's not because of the quality of their food or service (which are both excellent).

It's because Chick-fil-A's COO, Dan Cathy, was asked in a recent radio interview how he feels about same-sex marriage, and he gave an honest answer, based on his Christian faith and what the Bible says about homosexuality.
          
Now, the Left is calling for a nationwide boycott of the chain. A-list actors have vowed never to eat there again, and Boston's mayor has said he'll do all he can to keep Chick-fil-A franchises from opening in his city. And the Jim Henson Company, which was working on a promotional campaign with Chick-fil-A, ended the partnership last week, with CEO Lisa Henson ordering Chick-fil-A's payment to be donated to a gay-activist organization instead.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee posted an invitation for people to show support for Chick-fil-A on Aug. 1—one which was shared by nearly a million people in the course of 24 hours this week. Tuesday, Facebook® took the invitation down without explanation. Fortunately, it was restored later that night, with Facebook® telling CitizenLink it had made "an error."

Chick-fil-A has always operated with biblical values. Franchises from coast to coast are closed on Sunday in order to observe the Sabbath and allow employees to attend church, if they wish. The company's charitable foundation has given $2 million to pro-family organizations, including Focus on the Family. That's made a lot of headlines, too, especially in the blogosphere.

The point is, we no longer seem to live in a country where people can agree to disagree over same-sex marriage and let the dominant viewpoint prevail at the polls. Instead, those who seek to radically redefine the family too often take a scorched-earth policy to everyone who holds biblical values, and seek to silence them in any way possible.

Please join me in praying that God will restore a level of civil discourse to our nation—and thanking Him for courageous people who will stand up for their beliefs, no matter what the cost. I hope that each of us is able to display the kind of integrity the Cathy family has through this debate.

The title of this email was "Viewpoint Discrimination."  I don't even... *facepalm*

[Nadaka]

Am I freak for not seeing a conflict between being the radical liberal that I am and still being pro 2nd amendment?

I am having a really hard time with this, because I see so many people that I might normally agree with being complete dumb asses on various facebook/news/blog pages.

[penguinofhonor]

I can see working liberal viewpoints on either side of gun rights arguments. I definitely think there are a lot more pro-gun liberals than you would expect from the media.

[kaijyuu]

No, you're not. Personally I hate the political generalizations like "liberal" and "conservative" since they lump together irrelevant stuff. You can be pro life, pro guns, and a socialist. Or whatever.


If you're a freak about anything, it'd be calling anyone who disagrees with you a dumbass (though apologies if they're actually being dumb ).

[i2amroy]

Am I freak for not seeing a conflict between being the radical liberal that I am and still being pro 2nd amendment?

I am having a really hard time with this, because I see so many people that I might normally agree with being complete dumb asses on various facebook/news/blog pages.

I run into the same thing a lot with my opinions due to the fact that I am extremely opinionated on an issue-by-issue basis (seriously I've been ranked everything from far right to far left depending on what questions the ranking program asks). After a while you just learn to take the fact that anybody, even those who would normally agree with you, can be strongly against you at times in stride.

[penguinofhonor]

Gun rights, I feel, are a special issue when it comes to pro-social-liberty liberals. I think the perspectives of freedom to bear arms and the freedom to be safe from everyone else carrying arms can both coexist with an otherwise normal liberal mindset. The change in viewpoint here is more independent from the conservative/liberal spectrum than other issues.

[Sheb]

Also, the concept that there is a right to bear arms is uniquely American. A lot of the rest of the world just think you're crazy to allow people to buy assault rifles.

[scriver]

Being pro gun-freedom is liberalism as in rightwing, capitalist, bourgeoise libertarianism.

Pro-gun control is leftwing liberalism and the progressive stance.

I am biased to one of those two groups.

[Nadaka]

Being pro gun-freedom is liberalism as in rightwing, capitalist, bourgeoise libertarianism.

Pro-gun control is leftwing liberalism and the progressive stance.

I am biased to one of those two groups.

I am a leftwing liberal progressive. I view disarmament as a means to create in inequity of power, disenfranchising the people in favor the ruling class by removing the final line of defense against tyranny.

[kaijyuu]

Our ruling class doesn't keep control with guns. Fighting apples with oranges, if that's your logic.


Yes I just mixed two entirely unrelated sayings. Mwahaha.

[Leafsnail]

I think the perspectives of freedom to bear arms and the freedom to be safe from everyone else carrying arms can both coexist with an otherwise normal liberal mindset.

It's just that most liberals can work out which of those is more important

[Moghjubar]

If you go all the way with the 'right to bear arms', then everyone has a right to all sorts of weapons. 

Landmines and rocketlaunchers for all! 
In fact, in order to ensure we have a militia that can protect us from random shooters, we need mandatory concealed carry rocket launcher permits for people.
/logicalextremebasedonwording