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[Darvi]

But... but no one even drew a strict parallel between lawbreaking and bad-doing.

You did?

How does following the law give bad guys a free pass?

[lorb]

As much as I dislike myself for saying this, he's still not allowed to do it. It's not up to the police officer to decide what law should or should not be followed. That's up to the courts and the legislation.

I hate to say this, but the police's job is to enforce the law, not anything else. If you law are stupid, that's your problem.

Uhm, there is a point where you are morally obliged to _NOT_ follow the law.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Not for cops there isn't.

[Sheb]

Yup, but that's not the police's job. Sometime, the human behind the uniform has to wake up and say "Hey, I shouldn't be doing that". That's the point where he stop being a policeman.

Also, Darvi, GlyphGryph, you're actually arguing about how much you agree with each other. Stop it. 

[penguinofhonor]

No, keep going. Arguments like this make me chuckle.

[Darvi]

Can't be, people not agreeing with me is a fundamental law of nature.

Actually that's a stupid law let's just ignore it.


Also I'm interested in knowing which situations a cop would feel compelled enough to break the law that they'd even risk losing their job or whatever the sanction is.

[Sheb]

Well, I'm sure you had plenty of cops deserting in Libya or Syria.

[lorb]

Not for cops there isn't.

Yup, but that's not the police's job.

Why are cops exempt from the moral duties of humankind?

[Darvi]

Because they have to follow the law which by definition is unrelated to morality.

Which doesn't explain why it's so easy for them to ignore most of that too.

[Truean]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/25/loophole-lets-cruse-ship-rapes-go-unreported/

[Sheb]

As I said, it's not their job. That doesn't mean the human behind the cop shouldn't be as moral as anyone, but when he stop respecting the law, he stop being a cop.

It's like a soldier's job is to obey orders. Of course, as a human being, he shouldn't shoot into that kindergarten, but if that kind of orders are given, he should desert and stop being a soldier.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

When cops break the law, they do so vigilante style and see themselves as arbiters of justice. This is not their job or role, and cops who believe this are more often than not delusional maniacs who sometimes get people killed.

Cops are there to enforce and follow the law, not to enforce their personal brand of vengeance.

[lorb]

Because they have to follow the law which by definition is unrelated to morality.

It is not? Law _should_ be just. If it became law that a specified minorty (eg blacks) are excluded from some parts of society/public life (eg public transport) it would be the right thing to break and not enforce this law. (even for a policeman) no?

[MonkeyHead]

Doing so could easily cause more harm than good.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That kind of law breaking is not what you should be worried about.