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[Truean]

Ah, data underflow.

Ladies and gentlemen, The NSA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rQNdBmPek&feature=fvwrel

So, I'm really not surprised this came from them:

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[penguinofhonor]

That uploader. Sigh, that uploader.

My favourite scene from Good Will Hunting and pertinent to the principles of liberty in its condemnation of killing people abroad who have done no harm to you personally. Taken to it's logical conclusion this belief should lead anybody who holds it to a pure libertarian position; though most won't, of course.

I've got to ask my dad if he's seen this movie.

[Sheb]

So, the States don't need any reasons to spy on you as long as one of the parties is believed to be outside of the US? Dafuq! Well, I'm outside of the US, so this thread must be under government surveillance. Let's say hello to that lucky intern at the NSA that got to monitor us rather than monitoring 4chan.

[Leafsnail]

Yeah, it's a lot easier to fit in here without arousing suspicion.

[scriver]

If I'm decoding the doublespeak right: "It would violate your privacy if we said we spied on you."

Translation: "Aside from the obvious that we don't wanna get caught etc, it would expose you as a public curiousity if we told people we spied on you....The actual fact that we spied on you is a thing that should remain private for your sake...."

I.... It just....

See, Big Brother does care about you!

[Loud Whispers]

See, Big Brother does care about you!

BIG BROTHER ALWAYS CARES

[Sheb]

Am I the only one who think that if the US was a Dwarf Fortress, I'd just flood it with magma and start over? It's just so much of a mess that I wouldn't know where to start to fix it.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I'd let it devolve into a tantrum spiral first.

[Frumple]

Am I the only one who think that if the US was a Dwarf Fortress, I'd just flood it with magma and start over? It's just so much of a mess that I wouldn't know where to start to fix it.

No, no... it'd be pretty easy to start towards fixin'. Just death chamber the nobles and the brokers, then assign people that actually have appropriate skills into management positions instead of  whoever has the higher liar skill. There'd still be problems, but much more manageable ones.

[Loud Whispers]

Am I the only one who think that if the US was a Dwarf Fortress, I'd just flood it with magma and start over? It's just so much of a mess that I wouldn't know where to start to fix it.

No, no... it'd be pretty easy to start towards fixin'. Just death chamber the nobles and the brokers, then assign people that actually have appropriate skills into management positions instead of  whoever has the higher liar skill. There'd still be problems, but much more manageable ones.

Basically, do a Norway.

[scriver]

Don't you mean Iceland?

[kaijyuu]

Pull out the guillotines; it's mass murder time.

[Truean]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/supreme-court-upholds-key-part-arizona-immigration-law-141927514.html

The title is bullshit but yes. The overwhelming majority of the law got struck down, because separation of powers, and you can see the spin doctors are already trying to swing it as a conservative victory.

You lost 95% of your law, even a broken clock is right twice a day, but this counts as a win...? Sure, why not....

So now basically police can ask about your immigration status, but even SCOTUS recognizes that this will lead to more lawsuits as police may perform said askings illegally. The question will be, what must you do to prove your citizenship or status? Do you have to carry your god damn papers with you at all times or something? You know damn good and well that if you're even a bit too tan the police are going to start sniffing around, and if you're actually Hispanic, well.... This kinda sucks a bit but meh, what're you gonna do about it [sigh].
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http://news.yahoo.com/wikileaks-founder-wants-guarantee-wont-sent-us-032238148.html

The truth will set you free, unless of course it's a truth the government doesn't want told, in which case screw you. See, the government is entitled to privacy enforced by the court, you and I just aren't. Why, because they stamp everything "classified," especially things that really shouldn't be classified. They need a conveyor belt and a mechanical stamp to just do it easier. This guy didn't reveal troop movements or anything. He just told it like it was and nobody got hurt or killed. Isn't everybody calling for government transparency and accountability these days and complaining how their money is being wasted (especially the right wing)? Well he gave us exactly what we asked for.... Read the comments though, there are people calling for his death by firing squad for treason. He isn't even an American citizen, so how can he be guilty of treason to a country he owes no loyalty to?

The truth will set you free? Is that why they tell you, "you have the right to remain silent?"

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The truth will set you free? Is that why they tell you, "you have the right to remain silent?"

Speaking of dealing with the police.

[scriver]

...Dude. I'm completely with the police on that one. If a policeman aren't allowed to check up on you when your carrying of a gun makes people scared, then something is wrong with your laws.