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[Sheb]

Well, I actually didn't listen to to sound yet, because I didn't have headphones, but I think the video is clear enough without sound.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's bad, but I'm surprised by how surprised you are by this Sheb. This stuff isn't unheard of in protesting by a long shot.

[Sheb]

Well, Belgium is pretty civilized.

[Sirus]

It's because he's made several posts in this and other threads about how awesome Belgium is in every way, and now he sees that Belgium is no better or worse than other places. It's a shock.

[scriver]

No, it's a shock because Belgium's standard is better than that.

[Phmcw]

Yup, they gave a guy a concussion, they'd better come off with proofs that the violence was warranted or I swear some peoples are going to find themselves without a job. But that's pretty much what  the mayor of Brussels said.

Edit : I've been a bit too quick he has just asked for an inquiry, as as the minister of interior affairs.

[Euld]

The bill to end indefinite detention FAILED in the House recently.  Apparently, some of the members of the House are insane and can't read the Constitution ._.

[kaijyuu]

Apparently, some of the members of the House are insane and can't read the Constitution ._.

Well duh.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It wasn't even a close vote. These people have no connection with reality or the rest of America.

[penguinofhonor]

I hope to god we can at least get some good campaign finance reform from the Supreme Court, since congress wouldn't dare piss off their sponsors. I'd love to see how quickly congress would change if they were actually elected based on how their views lined up with their constituents.

[justinlee999]

Best part about that article? The comments.

[penguinofhonor]

See? The entire institution is the problem, not just one party! Almost a whole eight percent of the no votes were from democrats.

[Truean]

The whole notion of indefinite detention just scares the shit out of me.

The idea that you couldn't even ask for something like bail just totally blows my mind to be perfectly honest with you and I cant really fathom it. I mean basically what they're doing is even worse than "getting rid of due process." What they're really doing is even more fundamental than that: In essence, they are not only shifting the burden of proof from the state to the defendant, but making that burden impossible to meet.

Simply, innocent until proven guilty becomes, "guilty until proven innocent."

....

That's supposed to be basically the opposite of what we're about....

[GlyphGryph]

Simply, innocent until proven guilty becomes, "guilty until proven innocent."

Since you're not even getting a trial, this is giving it WAY to much credit. That means you could, conceivably, prove yourself innocent. That doesn't apply here.
It's not guilty until proven innocent, it's guilty. Full stop. Just... guilty. If they decide you're guilty, you are, period.

It's bloody terrifying.

It's a sad situation when "guilty until proven innocent" would actually be a step up.

[penguinofhonor]

So the HRC did a neat study with LGBT youth (PDF, you have been warned) that has some interesting info. But man did their graphic designer have fun with it. It's almost all wasted space.