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[MonkeyHead]

So, hang on, let me get this...

So, in the USA, you have a President who by your standards is Liberal. He has to deal with a pair of legislative houses that are on the whole pretty Conservative. As a result his hands are pretty tied, and bills like DOMA get passed. Add into this an apparent majority of states with Conservantive govenors. Standing along side this are the Supreme Cout Judges, who apparently have thier heads screwed on most of the time and filter out the worst Conservative bullshit.

How in the hell does anything actually get done in terms of running the country?

[Sheb]

Actually DOMA was passed back in 1996, under Clinton's presidency. Obama decided to tell the Justice Dpt. not to defend it in court, which probably helped in the 1st circuit.

Now, nothing much get done, except when everybody agree on something, which is usually on corporate-backed bills with bipartisan support (see SOPA)

[Scelly9]

How in the hell does anything actually get done in terms of running the country?

Mostly? It doesn't.

[Jervill]

Good news about DOMA, and there is a silver lining to the recall elections in Wisconsin.  The Democrats did retake the Wisconsin state senate, so that's a consolation prize.

[Truean]

How in the hell does anything actually get done in terms of running the country?

Mostly? It doesn't.

^^
This. Unless as Sheb said, there's a ton of money behind it. The country seems to be for sale and selling out....
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http://gma.yahoo.com/water-polo-coach-claims-fired-being-gay-185237998--abc-news-wellness.html

And, he probably was fired for being gay.... Let's see how the lawsuit comes out.... This is yet another instance of the mass slander suffered by gay people who are often called pedophiles. For some reason, many people can't get it through their head that they are NOT the same thing.

The U.S. subject to corporate purchase; civil rights subject to the voting habits of dullards...?

[Heron TSG]

So, in the USA, you have a President who by your standards is Liberal.

Only recently, it seems. Otherwise he's seemed to be more moderate than I'd like, but I suppose he's had to be.

How in the hell does anything actually get done in terms of running the country?

Exactly.

And, he probably was fired for being gay.... Let's see how the lawsuit comes out....

Although California isn't quite the same as Ohio, what do you think his legal chances are?

[Truean]

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[Jervill]

So, in the USA, you have a President who by your standards is Liberal.

Only recently, it seems. Otherwise he's seemed to be more moderate than I'd like, but I suppose he's had to be.

If you want to know the actual American Left, look to the Congressional Progressive Caucus.  Keith Ellison (D-Minnesota-5) and Raul Grijalva (D-Arizona-7) are the co-chairs of the caucus.  In the Senate, Bernie Sanders (Independent Socialist-Vermont) is the furthest left.

And some good news from yesterday, as Public Policy Polling released a poll showing the marriage amendment in Minnesota losing support.  There was a Survey USA poll last month that showed about the same results, but I wanted to wait until another pollster could back it up.  Currently 44% support making it illegal for gays to marry, while 49% oppose it.  I checked the sample, and it's not overly Dem friendly. (The sample says they voted for Obama by 9, he won the state by 10 in 2008.) 

I trust both PPP and Survey USA; they've been extremely accurate the past couple of cycles in Minnesota, so I see no reason to doubt these polls.

Public Policy Polling's press release

Survey USA poll (mid May)

[Miggy]

This is the danish parliament's vote for whether or not same-sex couples should be able to be married in the church.

Denmark is one of the few countries left in the western world that has an official government-sponsored religion (in the same boat as Iceland and England). This might seem backwards when compared to secular countries and their constitutions, but seeing as Denmark is more or less completely atheist, this leads to some amusing results.

Homosexual couples getting recognised as couples by the government has been going on for a long time in Denmark (I think we were one of the first countries to introduce it as an option), but there's always been the problem of the churches not officially recognising homosexual weddings. However, seeing as the church is sponsored and run by the danish government, the parliament has now voted that the church has to wed homosexual couples, whether they want to or not. When some anti-gay priests tried to defend themselves saying there are no rituals or vows in the church literature to be used for homosexual weddings, the government was clear: "Then just make some".

And so it has been voted in the danish parliament that the danish church must wed homosexuals on par with heterosexuals.

[Twi]

So basically, Denmark has managed to not separate church and state without the church getting silly amounts of power?

(In feudal Europe, church runs government. In soviet modern Denmark, government runs church!)

Also, huzzah.

[RedKing]

Meanwhile in North Carolina....state Senate voted to move forward with a proposal to allow hydraulic fracturing ("fracking") in central North Carolina. Because jobs, jobs, JOBS! Fuck the water supply! If you have a job, you can always buy bottled water! And energy independence and shit! "You don't want to be beholden to some Ayatollah with a name you can't pronounce" (this is an honest-to-God quote from one of the frackers).

And how deep and vast are these quantites of natural gas, you ask? About five years' worth. Of what the state currently uses. So in other words, drop in the motherfuckin' bucket. Glad I don't live in the three counties most likely to get drilled, but I wouldn't put it past some wildcatters to just start drilling every goddamn place looking for something. After all, it's not like there's any safety regulations involved...>_<

I've got my bags half-packed. If I can find a good job somewhere else, I'm fucking taking it.

[scriver]

Hehe, same situation the Swedish Church found itself in back when we legalised it some years ago.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Oh good, exploding, toxic water and localized earthquakes for everyone in the state. That's just....peachy.

Well, perhaps having all these horrible things happen will finally drill (pun intended) it into the heads of rural North Carolinians that fracking is a bad thing and that you can't just exploit your way out of a global energy crisis.

[RedKing]

Oh good, exploding, toxic water and localized earthquakes for everyone in the state. That's just....peachy.

Well, perhaps having all these horrible things happen will finally drill (pun intended) it into the heads of rural North Carolinians that fracking is a bad thing and that you can't just exploit your way out of a global energy crisis.

Nah, they'll just blame the stomach cancer on rock music. And thanks to their Mirror Universe counterparts in Iran, we know that the earthquakes are caused by boobs.

[scriver]

Well, at least you'll be able to post awesome videos of you burning your own tap water and post them here for us to enjoy.