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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #675 on: March 20, 2012, 01:38:55 pm »

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/20/10776901-dutch-church-accused-of-castrating-young-boys-in-1950s
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At least 10 men and boys under the age of 21 were castrated in a bid to rid them of homosexuality while under the care of the Dutch Roman Catholic Church in the 1950s
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The NRC Handelsblad newspaper identified Henk Heithuis, who was castrated in 1956 as a minor after he reportedly went to authorities about abuse he suffered at a Catholic boarding house, The Telegraph reported.
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« Reply #676 on: March 20, 2012, 01:41:51 pm »

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/20/10776901-dutch-church-accused-of-castrating-young-boys-in-1950s
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At least 10 men and boys under the age of 21 were castrated in a bid to rid them of homosexuality while under the care of the Dutch Roman Catholic Church in the 1950s
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The NRC Handelsblad newspaper identified Henk Heithuis, who was castrated in 1956 as a minor after he reportedly went to authorities about abuse he suffered at a Catholic boarding house, The Telegraph reported.
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« Reply #677 on: March 20, 2012, 01:49:31 pm »

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/20/10776901-dutch-church-accused-of-castrating-young-boys-in-1950s
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At least 10 men and boys under the age of 21 were castrated in a bid to rid them of homosexuality while under the care of the Dutch Roman Catholic Church in the 1950s
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The NRC Handelsblad newspaper identified Henk Heithuis, who was castrated in 1956 as a minor after he reportedly went to authorities about abuse he suffered at a Catholic boarding house, The Telegraph reported.
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« Reply #678 on: March 20, 2012, 02:10:35 pm »

Da fuq? The linked source is probably not the least biased out there, but it's got a direct link to the bill itself. And I'm not sure any degree of neutrality could make the bill seem less obnoxious.
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« Reply #679 on: March 20, 2012, 02:15:24 pm »

"Billy May here! Do you want to know the names of women seeking abortions?"

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« Reply #680 on: March 20, 2012, 02:23:53 pm »

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« Reply #681 on: March 20, 2012, 02:42:05 pm »

Da fuq? The linked source is probably not the least biased out there, but it's got a direct link to the bill itself. And I'm not sure any degree of neutrality could make the bill seem less obnoxious.
Well, I think the potential effect is somewhat overstated. The argument is that it's going from state aggregate data to county-level aggregate data, and that this allows people to potentially ID a woman by saying "Hmm...a 40-year old Hispanic woman got an abortion, and we only have one person in this county that fits that description..."

But even rural Tennessee isn't *that* rural. We're not talking population densities like Alaska or Wyoming. It would still be hard to ID someone from aggregate data.

The much bigger concern for me is that the doctors performing the abortions would be flat-out identified: name and address. Might as well include best sight lines into the office windows and preferred sniping positions while you're at it.
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« Reply #682 on: March 20, 2012, 03:20:50 pm »

Da fuq? The linked source is probably not the least biased out there, but it's got a direct link to the bill itself. And I'm not sure any degree of neutrality could make the bill seem less obnoxious.
Well, I think the potential effect is somewhat overstated. The argument is that it's going from state aggregate data to county-level aggregate data, and that this allows people to potentially ID a woman by saying "Hmm...a 40-year old Hispanic woman got an abortion, and we only have one person in this county that fits that description..."

But even rural Tennessee isn't *that* rural. We're not talking population densities like Alaska or Wyoming. It would still be hard to ID someone from aggregate data.

The much bigger concern for me is that the doctors performing the abortions would be flat-out identified: name and address. Might as well include best sight lines into the office windows and preferred sniping positions while you're at it.

I'm just sick of this scapegoating and puppet show distraction. The real issue has been for some time: jobs. We don't have them, and all our politicians want to do to fix that is throw money and tax breaks at companies who just refuse to spend on personnel. We've got some serious problems, but what are we focused on: women's reproductive rights. That's more fun to talk about I guess. It involves sex, you can look down on people, and it doesn't cost the people most concerned with regulating it anything personally.

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #685 on: March 20, 2012, 06:07:15 pm »

Surprised no-one's noticed this:
Rush Limbaugh blasted Barack Obama for sending troops to Uganda to help fight the Lord's Resistance Army, implying it to be an anti-Christian crusade. Furthermore, he parroted the LRA's supposed objectives and implied them to be factual.
Yeah, its been noted in this/the last thread, it just happened a really long time ago.
Ah. That explains why I didn't see it, I never posted in the old thread >.<
The Huffington Post article is just from last week though. Did Limbaugh's comment go unnoticed for that long?
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« Reply #686 on: March 20, 2012, 06:09:56 pm »

Surprised no-one's noticed this:
Rush Limbaugh blasted Barack Obama for sending troops to Uganda to help fight the Lord's Resistance Army, implying it to be an anti-Christian crusade. Furthermore, he parroted the LRA's supposed objectives and implied them to be factual.
Yeah, its been noted in this/the last thread, it just happened a really long time ago.
Ah. That explains why I didn't see it, I never posted in the old thread >.<
The Huffington Post article is just from last week though. Did Limbaugh's comment go unnoticed for that long?
No, its that the article is being posted in light of the recent stuff about invisibile children and kony.
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« Reply #687 on: March 20, 2012, 06:18:24 pm »

Surprised no-one's noticed this:
Rush Limbaugh blasted Barack Obama for sending troops to Uganda to help fight the Lord's Resistance Army, implying it to be an anti-Christian crusade. Furthermore, he parroted the LRA's supposed objectives and implied them to be factual.
Yeah, its been noted in this/the last thread, it just happened a really long time ago.
Ah. That explains why I didn't see it, I never posted in the old thread >.<
The Huffington Post article is just from last week though. Did Limbaugh's comment go unnoticed for that long?
No, its that the article is being posted in light of the recent stuff about invisibile children and kony.
Derp. I guess I'm just being a little off today.
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« Reply #688 on: March 20, 2012, 07:15:57 pm »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/20/chuck-winder-rape-abortions_n_1366994.html

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I'm sorry, do women count as a portion of the population they want votes from?

“Rape and incest was used as a reason to oppose this," Winder said on the Senate floor. "I would hope that when a woman goes in to a physician with a rape issue, that physician will indeed ask her about perhaps her marriage, was this pregnancy caused by normal relations in a marriage or was it truly caused by a rape. I assume that's part of the counseling that goes on.”

??? WTF? Wait wait, so a rape, one of the most intimate and horrible crimes is reported (they aren't always), and you expect the doctor to grill her about it and ask if shes married, etc?
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« Reply #689 on: March 20, 2012, 07:22:21 pm »

It's so they can determine whether to stone her for adultery or flog her for being alone with an unrelated man.

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