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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #570 on: March 15, 2012, 08:36:08 pm »

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/southern-miss-band-chants-where-green-card-puerto-205326741.html

As the article says, Puerto Rico is a part of the United States. People there are American Citizens. Thus, no green card is required (a type of immigration paper). Asking where his is, is rude.


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« Reply #571 on: March 15, 2012, 08:40:42 pm »

I'm guessing that some of it is submitted as satire. Problem is that Andy himself is quite sincere, and he deletes anything he doesn't agree with.
Yeah, I think it's an interesting case study.  Andy bans anyone who openly disagrees with him on any issue.  So any genuine user is bound to disagree with him eventually and get banned.  While parodists are prepared to back him up on literally everything he says in order to ingratiate themselves.  So he ends up selecting towards parodists.
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« Reply #572 on: March 15, 2012, 08:46:44 pm »

I'm guessing that some of it is submitted as satire. Problem is that Andy himself is quite sincere, and he deletes anything he doesn't agree with.
Yeah, I think it's an interesting case study.  Andy bans anyone who openly disagrees with him on any issue.  So any genuine user is bound to disagree with him eventually and get banned.  While parodists are prepared to back him up on literally everything he says in order to ingratiate themselves.  So he ends up selecting towards parodists.
That just makes the site even scarier. The guy in charge (and probably at least 50% of the viewers and contributors) genuinely believe the nonsense posted. Some theorize that Andy is a ultra-deep-cover troll. Considering that he teaches college students this stuff (or at least he used to, haven't really been keeping tabs) in real life, that's somewhat unlikely.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #573 on: March 15, 2012, 09:53:37 pm »

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/southern-miss-band-chants-where-green-card-puerto-205326741.html

As the article says, Puerto Rico is a part of the United States. People there are American Citizens. Thus, no green card is required (a type of immigration paper). Asking where his is, is rude.


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« Reply #574 on: March 15, 2012, 11:17:57 pm »

Thing is, Puerto Rico is likely to become the last state, until Newt gets his way with the moon base- we simply don't have any other territories that are big enough to even think about qualifying.
The U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the the Northern Mariana Islands are all currently capable of applying for statehood.

Also, it's funny that you'd mention Taiwan, because a poll done there found that if given the choice between joining the U.S. and joining the PRC, the majority would elect to join the U.S. Granted, that is probably more because of hate for the PRC than love for the USA, but still.
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« Reply #575 on: March 15, 2012, 11:29:23 pm »

Not that it'll ever happen. Xi Jingping was just in the states playing lip service to the One China Policy. The PRC wouldn't forgive us if we annexed Taiwan.
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« Reply #576 on: March 15, 2012, 11:31:08 pm »

Of course it'll never happen, but it certainly does demonstrate that Taiwan isn't going to cave to the PRC any time soon.
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« Reply #577 on: March 16, 2012, 08:40:14 am »

It's a generational thing. Older Taiwanese are actually more pro-mainland than the younger ones (either because they were born there, or their parents were). Twentysomethings in Taiwan tend to be more nationalist and more "Fuck China" in attitude. It makes me worry about the potential for conflict in another 10-20 years as the increasingly nationalist youth in the mainland and the nationalist youth in Taiwan start moving into their respective political and military positions.
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« Reply #578 on: March 16, 2012, 09:42:02 am »

The way the whole Taiwan situation is handled is just....

U.S. 6th Naval Fleet has been stationed there forever and the Chinese Navy hangs around too. Every once in a while they have war games and shoot a lot in the general direction of our ships with no intention of hitting anything whatsoever. Not to be outdone, we do the same damn thing. If we hit them or they hit us, I'm sure the apologies couldn't come fast enough. It's the military equivalent of a sitcom's idiotic trashtaking, becoming idiotic slapfight, becoming a "very special episode" about never meaning to have hurt anyone....
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #579 on: March 16, 2012, 09:49:17 am »

It's a generational thing. Older Taiwanese are actually more pro-mainland than the younger ones (either because they were born there, or their parents were). Twentysomethings in Taiwan tend to be more nationalist and more "Fuck China" in attitude. It makes me worry about the potential for conflict in another 10-20 years as the increasingly nationalist youth in the mainland and the nationalist youth in Taiwan start moving into their respective political and military positions.
Older Taiwanese remember what the Nationalist government was actually like as well. After Mao's death it was hard to tell which government was worse until martial law was lifted.

The way the whole Taiwan situation is handled is just....

U.S. 6th Naval Fleet has been stationed there forever and the Chinese Navy hangs around too. Every once in a while they have war games and shoot a lot in the general direction of our ships with no intention of hitting anything whatsoever. Not to be outdone, we do the same damn thing. If we hit them or they hit us, I'm sure the apologies couldn't come fast enough. It's the military equivalent of a sitcom's idiotic trashtaking, becoming idiotic slapfight, becoming a "very special episode" about never meaning to have hurt anyone....
Idiots shouldn't be allowed to play with guns. For some reason I'm reminded of my neighbor who likes to fire off his rifle...in the middle of a residential circle.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #580 on: March 16, 2012, 09:55:48 am »

Meh, we did the same thing with the Soviets for 50 years. Fighter pilots would play games of chicken at Mach 3, because they didn't have any other way to "test" each other. Subs and opposing surface fleets played "cat and mouse" in the open ocean, even ground forces would stage these big mock drills to test how fast the other side could react.
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« Reply #581 on: March 16, 2012, 11:55:33 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/dharun-ravi-found-guilty-rutgers-trial-212458885--abc-news.html

"Altman argued that Ravi only activated the webcam to keep an eye on his belongings while an older 'creepy' stranger was in the room, and that Ravi's messages on Twitter and to his friends about the spying were just immature joking. "

So you admitted to the camera ... thing ... in writing which the prosecution has and you're saying you were just keeping an eye on your stuff to make sure it wasn't stolen?

Wow, really? First of all, his date wasn't that much older than him and second if it were an older woman, would you've used a camera to "keep an eye on your stuff," then?

He should have take the 600 hour community service plea, which his lawyer advised him to do, but naturally, no one listens.
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« Reply #582 on: March 16, 2012, 01:35:26 pm »

You'd have to be really stupid not to take that plea deal. No one should even need a lawyer to see how good of a deal that is.

Then again, if he were smart he wouldn't have gotten caught or even spied on his roommate in the first place.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #583 on: March 16, 2012, 02:45:16 pm »

Err, educate me:


Having your webcam on in your apartment is illegal? Or is "intent" the illegal thing?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #584 on: March 16, 2012, 02:53:12 pm »

Having your webcam on in a shared apartment to spy on your coinhabitant without their knowledge is illegal, yes.
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