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[Frumple]

Yeah... t'be honest, the way the bill's worded almost looks to me like something designed to push for strictly-paper marriages. If you're going to be under suspicion for child abuse for not being married but have no interest in marriage or cohabitation for whatever reason, then the answer is to be married in name only, just to avoid that law. Marriage doesn't necessarily entail cohabitation, after all, nor does it force certain financial burdens on either partner to the best of my knowledge -- unlike, say, child support does on unmarried parents.

If it's possible for an outside organization to dissolve a marriage without the consent of the married, I haven't heard of it; so marrying someone and then living elsewhere, cohabiting with someone else or no one, etc., so forth, so on, would seem to be the obvious solution.

I'm now kinda' curious how many people have something set up like that... it'd make a lot of sense to do that sort of thing, and a cursory search for information isn't pulling up anything designed to disincentivise that kind of arrangement.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

How popular is the statehood movement in Puerto Rico? It's not something people talk about very often (though it's not surprising that as soon as something's brought up Santorum's views on it turn out to be horrible).

In puerty rico, the support varies depending on how the question is asked. somewhere between 30% and 60% give or take. Its not just a question of "remain a territory" and "become a state". There are also movements for independence and commonwealth.

Although it effectively is between remaining a territory and becoming a state, as the commonwealth, free association, and full independence movements are very weak. The last time Puerto Rico had a referendum on this statehood got 46% of the vote and status quo got 50.5% of the vote. That was in 1998, and the statehood movement has gotten stronger since then.

In short, we may have to change the flag again come November.

Spoiler: I like this one, myself. (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: These two are rather boring. (click to show/hide)

[GlyphGryph]

If we kick out Arizona and upgrade Puerto Rico, we don't even have to change the flag.

[RedKing]

How popular is the statehood movement in Puerto Rico? It's not something people talk about very often (though it's not surprising that as soon as something's brought up Santorum's views on it turn out to be horrible).

In puerty rico, the support varies depending on how the question is asked. somewhere between 30% and 60% give or take. Its not just a question of "remain a territory" and "become a state". There are also movements for independence and commonwealth.

Although it effectively is between remaining a territory and becoming a state, as the commonwealth, free association, and full independence movements are very weak. The last time Puerto Rico had a referendum on this statehood got 46% of the vote and status quo got 50.5% of the vote. That was in 1998, and the statehood movement has gotten stronger since then.

In short, we may have to change the flag again come November.

Spoiler: I like this one, myself. (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: These two are rather boring. (click to show/hide)

I kinda like the sine-wave looking one. It'd be emblematic of our national mood swings.

[kaijyuu]

If we kick out Arizona and upgrade Puerto Rico, we don't even have to change the flag.

Best solution.

[penguinofhonor]

This Puerto Rico thing made me realize Hawaii has only been a state for 53 years. There are people around who remember having 49 states. Of course, this destroys any "tradition" arguments about not allowing a 51st state into the union.

[Sirus]

Wait, are there any national monuments or parks in Arizona? If so, is it possible to remove them before they secede?

[Fenrir]

Of course, this destroys any "tradition" arguments about not allowing a 51st state into the union.

That will not stop anyone from using one, though.

It is moot, however, as no one likes odd numbers. Sorry, Puerto Rico, request denied.

[Sirus]

Of course, this destroys any "tradition" arguments about not allowing a 51st state into the union.

That will not stop anyone from using one, though.

It is moot, however, as no one likes odd numbers. Sorry, Puerto Rico, request denied.

The 13 colonies disagree. I don't see much of a problem with letting Puerto Rico in.

[kaijyuu]

I'm still convinced any major opposition to it (outside of Puerto Rico anyway) would be almost entirely based in racism. "Tradition" and etc would be flimsy excuses.

[Fenrir]

The 13 colonies disagree. I don't see much of a problem with letting Puerto Rico in.

That is just typical Liberal revision of historical fact. You people do this all of the time.

[Sirus]

The 13 colonies disagree. I don't see much of a problem with letting Puerto Rico in.

That is just typical Liberal revision of historical fact. You people do this all of the time.

Oh geez, Conservapedia. Is Andy still doing his conservative Bible "translation"?

[kaijyuu]

I think they finished it.

[fqllve]

I'm still convinced any major opposition to it (outside of Puerto Rico anyway) would be almost entirely based in racism. "Tradition" and etc would be flimsy excuses.

Economically speaking, Puerto Rico isn't doing well at all right now (understatement), so we'd probably see that being used as an argument against statehood. Of course I see it as an argument for it.

[Fenrir]

Oh geez, Conservapedia. Is Andy still doing his conservative Bible "translation"?

I thought it [Conservapedia] was satire for some time. It surprised me to discover that they are actually serious.