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[Capntastic]

I'll sprinkle some calm and cool fairy dust onto the above post by reminding people that there is no ill will intended at all-- pointing out someone is wrong, having a discussion with them at all, is an implicit indication that you take the person seriously enough to want to convince them of something.

[Max White]

I'm thinking of going outside, and putting a bar at the entrance to the thread, with a sign saying 'You must be this chill to enter!'

[Capntastic]

I think the better goal would be to make this place a temple of chill where all are free to come and be refreshed.

[Max White]

While we post links that a more religious man would consider proof of the oncoming biblical reckoning? Yea, that will work...

[Reelya]

I only made the above post in response to criptfiend going "meta-discussion" on us and claiming the moral high-ground. Not intended to start a flame-war, but what may come, may come. Last thing, criptfiend has started to nitpick on punctuation (while still managing to make himself look like a victim by nitpicking Capntastic's paraphrase, with criptfiend deliberately pretending he can't tell a quote from a paraphrase).

Seriously, we're being trolled.

[Capntastic]

Let's change subjects then.  Go back and discuss the effort posts I made last night, about GSCI speculation.   There's some meat there I'd like to yell about. 

Edit:  I'm not too keen on railing against Criptfiend on the whole punctuation/paraphrasing bits because I'm pretty sure he's not a native English speaker.

[Blargityblarg]

Cript is American, I'm pretty sure.

[Capntastic]

If that's the case then, well, my apologies I guess.

[penguinofhonor]

This discussion about Gingrich falling asleep is over.

Ironically, I was asleep for the last stretch of it or I would have ended it sooner.

[Truean]

Snoozegate basically ran its course.

http://news.yahoo.com/sandra-fluke-her-role-contraception-controversy-again-110000215.html and Fox News has taken to calling her a "liberal plant," because any failure shall be spun.... It couldn't possibly be that some sexist old guy was sexist, or if he was, then it was the equivalent of entrapment. She simply must have set him up.... Really?

Let's change subjects then.  Go back and discuss the effort posts I made last night, about GSCI speculation.   There's some meat there I'd like to yell about. 

The idea of funneling money to places it needs invested is a good idea and it works, in theory. In reality, there are a ton of things that can go wrong and we're so in love with the theory that we deny the existence of its flaws. Wall St. be damned, financial markets work best when heavily regulated with well designed rules aimed at stability. Saying we should just ... let things go where they will due to some imaginary invisible hand is irresponsible in the extreme. The invisible hand exists, but real hands exist even more and who are we kidding, those real hands reach into the til or just plain old don't get it sometimes. Then we have a "correction," or a nice big loss, which none of the economics text books talk about in great detail....

That doesn't even start on the secondary effects and the feedback loop where it all becomes a vicious cycle....

Commodities futures markets are not a bad thing and I've explained before how it was a sort of ... I guess you could call in "insurance" in a non technical sense. They guaranteed a farmer a certain price, thus insulating the food producers from price shocks. This is wonderful. But, then people came along and sought to maximize the profits beyond reason and promptly ruined it.

It's to the point where, we aren't going off price value, we're going off "perception." This is why every time something happens anywhere, the price of oil goes up despite demand being weak and supply being high in the US. If things are bad now and gas is $3.75-$4.00/gallon, then what the crap is it going to be when things get good? We're going to be talking $5-$6/gallon minimum then (if that doesn't kill any economic recovery we might have). Drilling for more oil won't help when the problem is commodities speculation. The US has lots of oil, and we're currently exporting it after we put it through our refineries. There is positively no logic as to why the price is going up.

[Truean]

http://news.yahoo.com/family-florida-boy-killed-neighborhood-watch-seeks-arrest-044537742.html



How is this guy not arrested? They have all the probable cause in the world: dead body and he admits to shooting the kid. The only issue is "possible" self defense. A.) based on what?, B.) totally disproportionate use of force C.) So we're just gonna take his word for it and let him roam around a bit for now?

Also: "'Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid,' Crump said." Black kid visits gated community (where family lives), gets reported as "suspicious" (no one says why), and the man who admits shooting him in the chest, is not arrested....

[sigh]

[Criptfeind]

So, I know the argument is over, and I sorta agree it might as well be a good thing, but I did want to clear up one or two things.

1: I am a American and my first language is American English. There are a few reasons I type oddly, but foremost among them is that I am unable to spell.

2: When talking to people I both assume that they are the same level of intelligence as me, and that they follow the same thought processes, I do this because I feel that avoiding being condescending/(what ever the opposite of condescending is) or even more confusing is worth what confusion I feel it might cause.

3: I do not put hidden agendas in my words, I do avoid saying many things because I am a non verbal communicator, but nothing in contradiction or opposition to my meaning. IE: I do not "play the victim" or "troll."

[JoshuaFH]

Just gonna watch, as I did in the previous thread.

[Reelya]

The latest broadside on the "Sandra Fluke" story is this "she lied about her age" meme. Or someone lied. Probably in the "liberal media".

Whoopsie: Georgetown’s 23 year old “Coed” Sandra Fluke Is actually a 30 Year-Old Women’s Rights Activist

The Democrat’s token abused 23 year old college coed is actually a 30 year-old hardcore women’s rights activist.   Sandra Fluke is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice.

But none of the echo-chamber articles can cite anywhere anyone made claims about her age at all. And they mock her being called a "coed" but that was Rush's line, not the "liberal media". Also, she mentioned on the very first video of her appearing before congress that she's representing LSRJ. And how's her age / time out of college even relevant to that when it's "law students for reproductive justice". So she obviously was in that while a law student.

Lot's of bloggers on yahoo have been citing this and saying "you libs just won't let this story die" lol. Which makes even less sense.

Hell, if she's 31 and can pass for 23, good luck to her.

[Urist Imiknorris]

"So these things nobody (except Rush) said about her turned out to be false. DAMN YOU LIEBERALS!"