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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9135 on: January 06, 2015, 09:32:00 pm »

Does that makes sense?
Yeah I guess. It's pretty easy to try and apply "most important thing first" type prioritisation to every problem, even though it really isn't applicable in cases where the 'most important thing' will be something that generations are going to pass over the course of doing it.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9136 on: January 06, 2015, 09:35:30 pm »

...LGBTQIA+ movement...

Alright, dumb off-topic question: What does the "I" stand for?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9137 on: January 06, 2015, 09:36:14 pm »

Does that makes sense?
Yeah I guess. It's pretty easy to try and apply "most important thing first" type prioritisation to every problem, even though it really isn't applicable in cases where the 'most important thing' will be something that generations are going to pass over the course of doing it.

right so you use a multi-pronged approach. You have to tackle it all.

I had a woman argue with me that animal rights could not be fought nor mattered until people were no longer poor. Now, by that argument (whether or not you care about animal rights) we have to ignore women's issues until all men have everything going good, or elevate all white people before we start considering other ethnic groups.

That's silly.

We can try to fight homelessness, which has seen an increase in men to the point where it went from it being women in the vast majority in the 80s to it being majority men. AND then we can, at the same time, fight domestic violence on a different front.

I feel like there's this perception that we have to ignore what the majority consider less important issue or sweep things under the rug that don't benefit everyone, just to get a few things accomplished. That presumes we would at one point have a society that is without problems in any given area, which is never going to happen.

...LGBTQIA+ movement...

Alright, dumb off-topic question: What does the "I" stand for?

Intersex. There's also sometimes a U and P in there, some people have suggested using entirely different terms that don't require an ever increasing number of letters for what is more a spectrum than anything else. But getting most people to agree on a specific term and adopt it would not be easy.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9138 on: January 06, 2015, 09:36:41 pm »

...LGBTQIA+ movement...

Alright, dumb off-topic question: What does the "I" stand for?
Intersex, most likely.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9139 on: January 06, 2015, 10:05:24 pm »

Homelessness used to be a mostly-for-women thing?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9140 on: January 06, 2015, 10:08:22 pm »

Homelessness used to be a mostly-for-women thing?

during the 80s there were significantly more homeless women than men in the US. That statistic has flipped.

A lot of homeless people are veterans, and/or mentally ill, so you might see some of that echoed in there being more male soldiers and women only recently "officially" getting to see combat. I don't know, tbh.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9141 on: January 07, 2015, 10:33:37 am »

Call me a bad man, but Rhodesia really doesn't seem like it was that bad of a place.
Compared to the rest of sub-Saharan Africa, it really wasn't. There was certainly state-sponsored racism, but there was also food on the table, for God's sake. A black Rhodesian was generally quite a bit better off than a black Zimbabwean is today. They were also anti-Communist and had catchy music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQMrD53Jofc
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9142 on: January 07, 2015, 10:37:25 am »

Call me a bad man, but Rhodesia really doesn't seem like it was that bad of a place.
Compared to the rest of sub-Saharan Africa, it really wasn't. There was certainly state-sponsored racism, but there was also food on the table, for God's sake. A black Rhodesian was generally quite a bit better off than a black Zimbabwean is today. They were also anti-Communist and had catchy music.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9143 on: January 07, 2015, 12:28:31 pm »

I've never seen uglier beards than those on the men in the second image. And I don't know what's going on in the third, but I'm certain I want no part in it.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9144 on: January 07, 2015, 12:30:53 pm »

but looks at the shorts
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9145 on: January 07, 2015, 12:48:59 pm »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9146 on: January 07, 2015, 12:49:53 pm »

This is now a derail of a derail.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9147 on: January 07, 2015, 12:50:56 pm »

If there are enough derails, it might circle back to the original track.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9148 on: January 07, 2015, 12:51:47 pm »

Well, it depends on if you're derailing it to the left or to the right. Or up or down, I guess.

You need to derail it in the same direction four times.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9149 on: January 19, 2015, 08:12:36 am »

Mmmmh, apparently smeeprocket was banned. Well, fare thee well smeeprocket, you could be an abrasive condescending butthole sometime, but your contribution will be missed.
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