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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1285905 times)

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6271 on: July 11, 2013, 10:40:50 pm »

Fuck.

I wanna take a RC airplane over there and drop tons of gay porn all over the red square. That would be fun.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6272 on: July 11, 2013, 10:59:52 pm »

Not surprising. This has been in the making for quite a while now. Putin is playing off the Russian Orthodox Church, who is supporting him in turn for supporting their social agenda. Their growth in power is quite disturbing. I wouldn't be that surprised if Russia enacted a sodomy law in the next few years.

There's certainly enough public support for it.
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Public opinion in Russia tends to be among the most hostile toward homosexuality in the world, and the level of intolerance has been rising.[13] A 2013 survey found that 74% of Russians said homosexuality should not be accepted by society (up from 60% in 2002), compared to 16% who said that homosexuality should be accepted by society.[14] In a 2007 survey, 68% of Russians said homosexuality is always wrong (54%) or almost always wrong (14%).[15] In a 2005 poll, 44% of Russians were in favor of making homosexual acts between consenting adults a criminal act;[11] at the same time, 43% of Russians supported a legal ban on discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.[11] There is a visible LGBT community network, mostly in major cities like Moscow and Saint Petersburg, including nightclubs and political organizations.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6273 on: July 12, 2013, 05:05:04 am »

Goddammit Russia. You're doing it wrong.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6274 on: July 12, 2013, 06:05:15 am »

The Russian government does a lot of things wrong, yet you'll undoubtedly meet a few people on these very forums who will gladly tell you that Putin is a strong, wise leader who knows what he's doing and is good for Russia. I know I have. A quick browse through youtube comments on videos about this subject are very revealing.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6275 on: July 12, 2013, 06:56:40 am »

So Russia is taking some steps backwards.
A lot of Russians hold homosexuality on the same light as pedophilia, they really hate seeing it.

The Russian government does a lot of things wrong, yet you'll undoubtedly meet a few people on these very forums who will gladly tell you that Putin is a strong, wise leader who knows what he's doing and is good for Russia. I know I have. A quick browse through youtube comments on videos about this subject are very revealing.
Strong, yes. Wise? Short sighted. Would you think Putin's internet personality cult is more fantasy than serious adoration, much in the same way that RON PAUL 2012 was?

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6276 on: July 12, 2013, 07:01:56 am »

A look at some of the groups who protested at the French embassy.

It's the expected mix of the religious/social conservative groups with a couple of anti-American/west groups thrown into the mix.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6277 on: July 12, 2013, 10:25:00 am »

What the fuck is a Putin suit ???
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6278 on: July 12, 2013, 10:25:37 am »

I want one.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6279 on: July 12, 2013, 10:46:09 am »

So, why are Russians protesting at the French ambassady anyway?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6280 on: July 12, 2013, 10:47:59 am »

So, why are Russians protesting at the French ambassady anyway?
Didn't the French recently legalize gay marriage?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6281 on: July 12, 2013, 10:59:00 am »

I know it's been a few pages sinc ethe development discussion, but I'll continue it anyway.

First of all, subsistence farmers works hard. Not only do they have to feed themselves, but they must generate a surplus to pay for the stuff they can't produce (clothing, telephone, health care, school fees) and to cushion them should a crop fail. Unsurprisingly, many farmers simply don't manage to do it, unhelped by bad land policies and ag extension (Japan, Korea and Taiwan all kick-started their devellopment with very aggressive land reform of the king unimaginable today, expropriating everything above a few hectares). Moreover, subsistance farming is no way to develop a country. Not only do the peasant's life sucks, but their children's life won't be any better.

On the other hand, working in a factory means a more-or-less steady income. And it help the whole country climb the technological ladder. Just look at China, 20 years ago, they were making cheap shirts, now, you have companies like Huawei being world leaders in high-tech sectors.

Importantly, this process of technological learning isn't that dependant on education, it mostly happens on site, in the factories. For exemple, Korea had a literacy rate of less than 30% after the Korean War. Didn't prevent them from developing.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6282 on: July 12, 2013, 11:25:41 am »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6283 on: July 12, 2013, 11:39:52 am »

Unrelated to any discussion currently going on:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/context-and-variation/2013/06/29/men-menopause-evolution/
The amount of sarcasm and vitriol in that started making me nauseated.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6284 on: July 12, 2013, 11:42:09 am »

Is such a take on anthropology common enough to warrant this? Please answer civilly.
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