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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6165 on: June 25, 2013, 12:11:29 pm »

My only ethical concern about polyamory/polygamy is that it has traditionally been reserved for the ruling class.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6166 on: June 25, 2013, 12:59:48 pm »

My only ethical concern about polyamory/polygamy is that it has traditionally been reserved for the ruling class.
That's not really true. Islamic law allows a man to have up to 4 wives, if he can economically support them. The ethical problem is more the traditional one-sidedness of the whole thing, genderwise.

There have been cases where muslim immigrants exploit the welfare system to get around the financial requirements. They are legally married but have also married other women in religious ceremonies. These women then claim to be single mothers who don't know the father of their children, which results in them getting child support from the state, to the extent that they receive enough money to no longer be even eligible for welfare. It's a bit of a dilemma, if you legalize that, the father would have to pay for the children, which he probably couldn't, so they would live on welfare anyway.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6167 on: June 26, 2013, 02:39:04 pm »

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/26/tech/social-media/texas-filibuster-twitter/index.html?hpt=te_r1
That Texas anti-abortion bill is dead, thanks to a 13 hour filibuster by Wendy Davis.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6168 on: June 26, 2013, 02:40:12 pm »

Can't they just pass it next week or something?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6169 on: June 26, 2013, 06:48:20 pm »

I don't know if filibusters are terrible or awesome...
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6170 on: June 26, 2013, 06:49:29 pm »

I don't know if filibusters are terrible or awesome...
They're neutral tools that can be used for good or evil.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6171 on: June 26, 2013, 06:51:56 pm »

I can't imagine what it feels like to constantly speak for 13 hours without stopping.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6172 on: June 26, 2013, 06:52:32 pm »

You can have a glass of water. Takes the sting off a bit.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6173 on: June 26, 2013, 06:57:20 pm »

I can't imagine what it feels like to constantly speak for 13 hours without stopping.
The origins of boxing. Two opponents speaking non stop until the other concedes or passes out.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6174 on: June 26, 2013, 07:00:45 pm »

Article says she only spoke for 10 of the 13 hours. Would you believe that isn't the record? That dubious honor belongs to Strom Thurmond, who spoke for 24 hours and 18 minutes straight in an attempt to prevent Congress from passing the Civil Rights Act of 1957.

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    Thurmond read, verbatim, the voting laws of each one of the 48 states.
    He read the U.S. criminal code
    He read a Supreme Court decision, followed by more laws. A friend brought him a glass of orange juice.
    He allowed Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson to conduct some minor Senate business, such as preparing to swear-in the new Senator from Wisconsin, with a promise that Thurmond will be allowed to resume his filibuster.
    At 1:40 a.m., Thurmond talked about jury trials.
    By 6:45 a.m., Thurmond was having a back and forth with an arriving Senator about the bill. The Senator then left for breakfast with President Eisenhower.
    Thurmond fielded questions from sympathetic Senators looking to give his voice a break.
    Thurmond read the Declaration of Independence.
    Thurmond allowed Johnson to swear in the new Senator from Wisconsin at roughly 1 p.m.
    Thurmond welcomed Italian dignitaries to the chamber and then resumed discussing jury trials.
    Thurmond took questions from sympathetic Senators again, as well as abuse from adversaries.
    A letter from the President Dwight D. Eisenhower momentarily interrupted the discussion of jury trials.
    The Senator finished up with a summary of his opposition to the bill. "Mr. President, I urge every Member of this body to consider this bill most carefully. I hope the Senate will see fit to kill it. I expect to vote against the bill. [Laughter.]"

Spoiler Alert: The Civil Rights Act passed anyway, if you didn't hear.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6175 on: June 26, 2013, 07:00:47 pm »

You can have a glass of water. Takes the sting off a bit.
Just moves your problem from your throat to your bladder. There are no bathroom-breaks in filibusters, right?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6176 on: June 26, 2013, 07:06:55 pm »

You can have a glass of water. Takes the sting off a bit.
Just moves your problem from your throat to your bladder. There are no bathroom-breaks in filibusters, right?
Bring in a porta-potty and continue speaking whilst doing your business. Problem solved.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6177 on: June 26, 2013, 07:24:44 pm »

Is that legal or have you just blessed american politics with a way to make filibusters much longer and much more entertaining?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6178 on: June 26, 2013, 07:28:46 pm »

How on earth did you mess up the quote tags so badly?

Anyway, I'm mostly just joking around.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6179 on: June 26, 2013, 07:32:28 pm »

I have no idea... :o

Yeah, I got that you were kidding.
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