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[Willfor]

Canada has a state called Yukon? How is that even pronounced?

It's actually a territory of Canada rather than a state. A territory is like a province except less bro. Do Canadian provinces have more autonomy than US states?

Originally, our Confederation was supposed to be the coming together of provinces (and territories) with a minimal Federal government to make sure that the whole thing kinda worked as a whole. Over time, more power has been centralized. The provinces still have a degree of autonomy within this structure, especially when it comes to how certain funds are allocated within the province. Provinces also have to sign off on any changes to the constitution.

Territories are regulated directly by the Federal government. The territories have minimal representation when compared to provinces such as Ontario, but they have a far greater representation per capita than any other populated area within Canada. Citizens of the territories have full citizenship rights. They are the least populated parts of Canada, with great expanses of land that is uninhabited, and difficult to cross.

There is a lot of resentment of the Federal government in "the West" that I've never personally seen up close because I'm on the much saner side of the country. Except now "the West" is in charge of the country, and they are --especially with Employment Insurance -- fundamentally misunderstanding how things work out here, and how they are destroying our provincial economy with their Federal changes.

Good times.

[Glowcat]

None of those arguments work because it just means you are a part of the conspiracy.

They don't have to work immediately. They're more fire and forget.

Not to mention they mostly consist of direct rebuttals based on uncited "evidence", most of which will be rejected out of hand by your opponent.

What? *looks again* I see citations in the links... unless this was a comment about the average climate deniers inability to understand how peer-reviewed evidence works? I'm confused.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

None of those arguments work because it just means you are a part of the conspiracy.

They don't have to work immediately. They're more fire and forget.

No, you see, environmentalists are all Christ-hating socialist murderers who want to kill your children, destroy America, and make us all live in eco-friendly tent cities. They worship their commie-lover spinster prophet, Rachel Carson.

Now, you think I'm joking, but I have seen some people who believe that wholeheartedly.

[Owlbread]

Originally, our Confederation was supposed to be the coming together of provinces (and territories) with a minimal Federal government to make sure that the whole thing kinda worked as a whole. Over time, more power has been centralized. The provinces still have a degree of autonomy within this structure, especially when it comes to how certain funds are allocated within the province. Provinces also have to sign off on any changes to the constitution.

Territories are regulated directly by the Federal government. The territories have minimal representation when compared to provinces such as Ontario, but they have a far greater representation per capita than any other populated area within Canada. Citizens of the territories have full citizenship rights. They are the least populated parts of Canada, with great expanses of land that is uninhabited, and difficult to cross.

There is a lot of resentment of the Federal government in "the West" that I've never personally seen up close because I'm on the much saner side of the country. Except now "the West" is in charge of the country, and they are --especially with Employment Insurance -- fundamentally misunderstanding how things work out here, and how they are destroying our provincial economy with their Federal changes.

Good times.

What kinds of powers have been centralised that were once provincial?

[RedKing]

Originally, our Confederation was supposed to be the coming together of provinces (and territories) with a minimal Federal government to make sure that the whole thing kinda worked as a whole. Over time, more power has been centralized. The provinces still have a degree of autonomy within this structure, especially when it comes to how certain funds are allocated within the province. Provinces also have to sign off on any changes to the constitution.

Territories are regulated directly by the Federal government. The territories have minimal representation when compared to provinces such as Ontario, but they have a far greater representation per capita than any other populated area within Canada. Citizens of the territories have full citizenship rights. They are the least populated parts of Canada, with great expanses of land that is uninhabited, and difficult to cross.

There is a lot of resentment of the Federal government in "the West" that I've never personally seen up close because I'm on the much saner side of the country. Except now "the West" is in charge of the country, and they are --especially with Employment Insurance -- fundamentally misunderstanding how things work out here, and how they are destroying our provincial economy with their Federal changes.

Good times.

What kinds of powers have been centralised that were once provincial?

Moose wrangling. And of course, the National Maple Syrup Reserve. 

[Nadaka]

The STRATEGIC National Maple Syrup Reserve. Its a vital part of Canadian national interests.

[Nilik]

The STRATEGIC National Maple Syrup Reserve. Its a vital part of Canadian national interests.

It took a long time, several sources and three Canadians to convince me the syrup reserve is actually a real thing.

[Max White]

It's actually a territory of Canada rather than a state. A territory is like a province except less bro. Do Canadian provinces have more autonomy than US states?

Well why doesn't it say on the can?
All the Australian territories have "Territory" in the name. All two of them, and there are no others. No sir.

[misko27]

I've decided the best argument to people who are saying Global Warming isn't man-made, or it's natural., or that it won't destroy the earth or kill so many species, or soemthing will adapt.


Very simple. Even if you are correct, even if I am totally wrong and it is, say, Bird-shit on Ticonderoga causing all of this, and All the animals adapt and are fine, we are still screwed. Important thing to note that the earth has been here long before you, and will be here long after your gone. 99.99% of all species that have ever been on this earth (even if you don;t believe in evolution, still a significant number of extinct species) are gone. Earth itself, life today? Totally fine, could not care less. Next disaster, most of them die, some won't and will start over. The Problem is we aren't taking no damned cosmic or long-term view. We aren't aliens to earth, whom pick and choose arbitrarily which species are should survive and which shouldn't. We are not, and can never be, unbiased parties to the earth. You can despise the environment all you want, but we are still dependent on it.


Summed up: Even if the rise of the oceans is natural, that won't stop us from drowning.

[misko27]

It's actually a territory of Canada rather than a state. A territory is like a province except less bro. Do Canadian provinces have more autonomy than US states?

US states do have a significant degree of Autonomy, capable of passing their own laws and regulations, with their own state trooper force, taxes, etc. hence gay marriage in 11 but not the rest.

EDIT: Damned double post

[10ebbor10]

Summed up: Even if the rise of the oceans is natural, that won't stop us from drowning.

Their counter would be quite simple, actually. Remove all pollution restrictions ---> More Growth ---> More Money ---> More funds for countermeasures (dikes, disaster relief, ....)

[SalmonGod]

There's a simpler way to go about this.

"Ok.  So global warming isn't man-made or isn't a real problem.  I'll just let that one go.  We don't need it.  What are your thoughts on rising ocean acidity levels?  Plastic particles in the water cycle?  Habitat destruction?  Endangerment of lynch pin species around the world, like amphibians or honeybees?  These problems are just as severe, and there's no way in hell you can argue mankind isn't the primary cause of them."

[Owlbread]

Well why doesn't it say on the can?
All the Australian territories have "Territory" in the name. All two of them, and there are no others. No sir.

Well one of the three Canadian territories is known as the "Northwest Territories", so that says it on the can. Yukon and Nunavut don't.

US states do have a significant degree of Autonomy, capable of passing their own laws and regulations, with their own state trooper force, taxes, etc. hence gay marriage in 11 but not the rest.

EDIT: Damned double post

But do the US states have more autonomy than provinces?

[Max White]

Funnily one of ours is the 'Northern Territory"  Because why not be creative with the names.

[Frumple]

There's a simpler way to go about this.

"Ok.  So global warming isn't man-made or isn't a real problem.  I'll just let that one go.  We don't need it.  What are your thoughts on rising ocean acidity levels?  Plastic particles in the water cycle?  Habitat destruction?  Endangerment of lynch pin species around the world, like amphibians or honeybees?  These problems are just as severe, and there's no way in hell you can argue mankind isn't the primary cause of them."

Hell man, you don't even need that. The flat fact is that the stuff causing environmental damage is wasteful as a rule. Pollution and containments getting into the environment is a sign of inefficiency, both in the process producing it, in using the pollutants themselves, and in maintaining the environment in a state most capable of exploitation. You could give jack-all of a shit about the long term consequences and be in complete denial about the larger scale impact of humans on the environment and still be necessarily led to tenants of conservation and environmental protectionism that are flatly identical to measures based on a long-term view. That ideal isn't just a moral thing, it's also an engineering thing.

To a large extent, climate denial and a lot of the industrial-side shit related to it has nothing to do genuine belief, s'far as I can tell. What it really is, is some fuckers trying to make an excuse for being crap at their job and obfuscate the blatant goddamn stupidity and inefficiency of what they're doing. These are poor businessmen and industrialists trying to excuse their failings on one hand, and individuals doing frankly immoral things (being excessively wasteful) trying to hide or downplay their immorality/incapability (of figuring out a more efficient process/something to do with the waste materials) on the other.

It honestly gets kinda' frustrating. Climate change being false doesn't change the fact that many of the measures being suggested to fight it are the best choice anyway. Efficiency is one of the primary virtues. Waste, pollutants, environmental damage... those are all signs of inefficiency, of damaging that which you extract resources from to an excessive degree. Regardless as to the long term or wide scale effects, these are things you freaking fix, because it means you can improve your methodology and extend the degree of resource exploitation you're capable of. S'just... damnit, people. Damn it, and damn you. Stop being so terrible at actual exploitation, you weaksauce bastards! You're giving the word a bad name!